<div dir="ltr">I think this list can and should fill that need.<div><br></div><div>But at the same time, there's not much value-add for the developer community *as a whole* if the discussion is primarily on the level of PHP syntax and things easily answered by searching the Codex function reference. And if there is a need for discussions of that level as well as "higher" level discussions, then maybe a theme-developers mailing list would be appropriate, and this one could be reserved for review-specific questions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And since no such mail-list exists, I'm fine with fielding development-related questions here. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Stuart Wider <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuartwider@gmail.com" target="_blank">stuartwider@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with Justin.</div>+1 for this too.<div><div><br></div><div>I'd love to see the 'make' part take a higher profile on <a href="http://make.wordpress.org/themes/" target="_blank">make.wordpress.org/themes/</a></div>

<div>The website for this group is named <b>make</b>.<a href="http://wordpress.org/themes/" target="_blank">wordpress.org/themes/</a> afterall ;)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe it would be appropriate to have a second list associated with <a href="http://make.wordpress.org/themes/" target="_blank">make.wordpress.org/themes/</a> </div>

<div>named something like <a href="mailto:theme-developers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-developers@lists.wordpress.org</a> (to keep the existing theme reviewers channel open for the business of reviewing)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'd love to take part in an official wordpress list specifically for theme developers.</div><div>Does such a thing exist?</div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Justin Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com" target="_blank">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    Use:<div><br>
    <br>
        if ( is_admin_bar_showing() )<br>
            echo 'true';<br>
        else<br>
            echo 'false';<br>
    <br></div>
    Or:<br>
    <br>
        if ( true === is_admin_bar_showing() )<div><br>
            echo 'true';<br>
        else<br>
            echo 'false';<br>
    <br></div>
    Or:<br>
    <br>
        echo is_admin_bar_showing() ? 'true' : 'false';<br>
    <br>
    I think these questions are perfectly fine for a mailing list like
    this.  We are theme developers, after all.  Why not help each other
    with actual code problems once in a while?  It breaks up the routine
    of arguing over every minute detail of what's allowed or not allowed
    in a theme.  It's refreshing.  I'd like to see more of this.<div><div><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 10/6/2013 6:41 AM, Ronnel Angelo
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Why not try.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier New,
              Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">if
                ( is_admin_bar_showing() ) {</span></font></div>
          <div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier New,
              Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">
                echo 'true';</span></font></div>
          <div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier New,
              Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">}</span></font></div>
          <div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
            <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier
                New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">else
                  {</span></font></div>
            <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier
                New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">
                  echo 'false';</span></font></div>
            <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier
                New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">}</span></font></div>
            <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier
                New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br>
                </span></font></div>
            <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small">I
                think question like these are better asked on the
                support forums and not here on the theme-reviewers.</span><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier New,
                Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br>
                </span></font></div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Phillip
          Wells <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phillipwells@hotmail.co.nz" target="_blank">phillipwells@hotmail.co.nz</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div>
              <div dir="ltr">I am currently making a theme and i need to
                use <span>is_admin_bar_showing</span><span>();
                  i have this code below</span>
                <div>
                  <font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco, Courier
                    New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">if
                      ( is_admin_bar_showing() ==true ){</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">echo'true';</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">}</span></font></div>
                <div>
                  <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                      Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">elseif
                        ( is_admin_bar_showing() == false ){</span></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                      Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">echo'false';</span></font></div>
                  <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                      Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">}</span></font></div>
                </div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">endif;</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br>
                    </span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">However
                      this doesn't work and i am not sure why.</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br>
                    </span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#007700" face="Consolas, Monaco,
                    Courier New, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:21.984375px;white-space:pre-wrap">The
                      description on the codex is: </span></font><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px;line-height:21.99652862548828px">This </span><a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Conditional_Tags" title="Conditional Tags" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(76,166,207);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(223,223,223);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px;line-height:21.99652862548828px" target="_blank">Conditional Tag</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px;line-height:21.99652862548828px"> checks
                    if the WordPress </span><a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Administration_Screens#Toolbar" title="Administration Screens" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(76,166,207);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(223,223,223);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px;line-height:21.99652862548828px" target="_blank">Toolbar</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px;line-height:21.99652862548828px"> is
                    being displayed. This is a boolean function, meaning
                    it returns either TRUE or FALSE. and here is a link
                    to the page on the codex </span><a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/is_admin_bar_showing" style="font-size:12pt" target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/is_admin_bar_showing</a>.
                  I have checked this page but i still cannot figure out
                  how to do it as this page is not very helpful.</div>
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