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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>OK, I have front-page.php in place + home.php<div><br></div><div>Conditions set as - Front Page to static - front-page.php kicks in with custom (in my case featured content) + content of the page.</div><div>Blog page has default template so home.php kicks in with blog feed and pagination in place.</div><div><br></div><div>Switch back to Front page shows latest post - front-page.php kicks in with my custom content and the blog feed.</div><div><br></div><div>My options in customizer to hide certain sections also work as I wanted :)</div><div><br></div><div>It does exactly what the man said it does - Chip thanks a bunch, problem solved - now for a bit of tweaking and upload.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:43:45 -0400<br>From: chip@chipbennett.net<br>To: theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org<br>Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please -Badidea?<br><br><div dir="ltr">Clearly, something is getting mis-communicated here.<div><br></div><div>User sets "front page displays" to "a static page". Then assigns pages to "front page" and "posts page". At this point, the blog posts index is now no longer displayed on the site front page, but is instead displayed on a static page.</div>
<div><br></div><div>At this point, the Template Hierarchy indicates that home.php (falling back to index.php) will be used to render the blog posts index. No custom page template will be used, even if assigned to the static page designated as the posts page.</div>
</div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Seriously? </div>
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<div>You do not get the concept of having a blog loop NOT on the home/landing
page ?</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 7:28 PM</div><div><div class="h5">
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">Discussion list for WordPress
theme reviewers.</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please
-Badidea?</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">There are many ways to implement a custom front page. The key
points here are:
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<div>1) Not to mis-use index.php as anything other than the default fallback
template file</div>
<div>2) To incorporate/respect settings -> reading, front page displays/front
page/posts page</div>
<div>3) To incorporate/follow the Template Hierarchy</div>
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<div>A template-blog.php is almost always going to be _doing_it_wrong(), because
when the user sets the front page to display a static page, and assigns a page
to display the posts page, WordPress is never going to use template-blog.php to
display that page. It's always and only ever going to use home.php, falling back
to index.php.</div></div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Zulfikar Nore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com" target="_blank">zulfikarnore@live.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think I know where Chip is coming from.
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<div>front-page.php conditionally calls index.php when user has Settings
>> Reading set to latest posts and if they have the settings to static
page then front-page calls the whatever-you-want-on-front.php right?<br><br>
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:14:31 -0400
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<div><br>From: <a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please - Badidea?<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">No, I think I have it exactly:
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<div>"<span style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:13px;">But I've
had a lot of requests for options to hide certain sections and one of them
<b>was the blog feed on front page</b>."</span></div></div>
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<div>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Yeah, you’re not getting it.</div>
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<div>It’s not for the front page </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 7:11 PM</div>
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please - Badidea?</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">index.php is NOT the front page template, and should not be
used as such. It is the default fallback template.
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<div>Use front-page.php for your front page template, and home.php for your
blog posts index template. Then all of your issues go away, magically.
:)</div></div>
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<div>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Zulfikar Nore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com" target="_blank">zulfikarnore@live.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm using the index.php showing featured content at the top
followed by the blog feed - which works fine and I had planned to stick
with that. But I've had a lot of requests for options to hide certain
sections and one of them was the blog feed on front page.
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<div>template.blog.php is to open the option to still have a page with the
blog feed on it when the user has opted to hide them on the front.</div>
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<div>Long story short - user hides posts on front but still wants a blog
fed page and this is my attempt to fill that need.<br><br>
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:42:43 -0400<br>From: <a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
<div><br>Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts
please - Bad idea?<br><br></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Why do you need template-blog.php when there is home.php for
exactly that purpose?</div>
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<div>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Zulfikar Nore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com" target="_blank">zulfikarnore@live.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I've read around that using query_posts is bad but I've
seen many a themes using it and get away with it.
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<div>My case is I'm trying to put together a template-blog.php for
StrapVert and this is what I've come up with so far:</div>
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<div>
<div>add_filter('option_show_on_front', '__return_false');</div>
<div> global $wp_query;</div>
<div> query_posts(array(</div>
<div><span style="WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;"></span> 'paged' =>
$wp_query->get('paged'),</div>
<div><span style="WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;"></span> 'post__not_in'
=> get_option('sticky_posts'),</div>
<div> ));</div>
<div> </div>
<div> global $more; $more = 0;</div>
<div> get_template_part('index-blog');</div>
<div> $more = 1;</div>
<div>remove_filter('option_show_on_front', '__return_false');</div>
<div> </div>
<div> wp_reset_query();</div>
<div>wp_reset_postdata();</div></div>
<div> </div>
<div>But before I add these changes to the theme and submit an update
I'd like some feedback on "How Really Bad" is query_posts and can I "get
away" with the above?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks in advance,</div>
<div>Zulf
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