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<DIV>The big question at this point being that front-page.php if included with
theme though overrides the index.php on all counts but I don’t want it
distributed that way ;/ how would you counter that?</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=philip@frumph.net
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net">Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>So front-page.php basically template redirects ‘overrides’ the page that
you set it to then? and the blog loop uses the pre-get-parser at
that point on it?</DIV>
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<DIV>Damn, well yeah I was doing it wrong. (sorry chip)</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=chip@chipbennett.net
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 13, 2013 7:48 PM</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>You don't assign front-page.php to a static page, because
front-page.php isn't a custom page template. In fact, front-page.php should
*not* even have a "Template Name:" phpDoc header (which is what would allow it
to be assigned to a static page).
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<DIV>The front-page.php template file is used contextually by WordPress, as per
the Template Hierarchy, based on settings -> reading -> "front page
displays" and "front page".</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>(snicker) guess I’ am doing it wrong then, because that has never worked
for me to assign front-page.php to a static page it has always overwritten the
main</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=zulfikarnore@live.com
href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com" target=_blank>Zulfikar Nore</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 13, 2013 7:32 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>Ah, progress....</DIV>Now I'm getting the hang of front-page.php
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:30:14 -0400<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
target=_blank>chip@chipbennett.net</A><BR>To: <A
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<DIV dir=ltr>Both front-page.php and home.php are templates, defined in the
Template Hierarchy. What they are not, however, is custom static-page
templates. WordPress provides a core method to assign a static page to the
front page and to display the blog posts index, and the Template Hierarchy
defines which template files are used to render those contexts.
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<DIV>To answer your specific question: when a user selects "static page" for
"front page displays, and then assigns static pages to the front page and
posts page, WordPress will use front-page.php to render the front page, and
home.php to render the posts page.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Zulfikar Nore <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com"
target=_blank>zulfikarnore@live.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Neither of which are templates.
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<DIV>front-page.php will be picked up first so where will home.php fit
in?</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:24:49 -0400
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<DIV><BR>From: <A href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
target=_blank>chip@chipbennett.net</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>Subject: Re:
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<DIV dir=ltr>That other page is... (wait for it...)
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<DIV>home.php</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Okay so you have it "HALF” right .</DIV>
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<DIV>the second part of that is to have the BLOG LOOP on another
PAGE</DIV>
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<DIV>get it yet?</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=chip@chipbennett.net
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target=_blank>Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 13, 2013 7:14 PM</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>No, I think I have it exactly:
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<DIV>"<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">But
I've had a lot of requests for options to hide certain sections and one of
them <B>was the blog feed on front page</B>."</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Yeah, you’re not getting it.</DIV>
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<DIV>It’s not for the front page </DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=chip@chipbennett.net
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target=_blank>Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 13, 2013 7:11 PM</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>index.php is NOT the front page template, and should not be
used as such. It is the default fallback template.
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<DIV>Use front-page.php for your front page template, and home.php for
your blog posts index template. Then all of your issues go away,
magically. :)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Zulfikar Nore <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com"
target=_blank>zulfikarnore@live.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I'm using the index.php showing featured content at the
top followed by the blog feed - which works fine and I had planned to
stick with that. But I've had a lot of requests for options to hide
certain sections and one of them was the blog feed on front page.
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<DIV>template.blog.php is to open the option to still have a page with
the blog feed on it when the user has opted to hide them on the
front.</DIV>
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<DIV>Long story short - user hides posts on front but still wants a
blog fed page and this is my attempt to fill that need.<BR><BR>
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:42:43 -0400<BR>From: <A
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target=_blank>chip@chipbennett.net</A><BR>To: <A
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<DIV dir=ltr>Why do you need template-blog.php when there is home.php
for exactly that purpose?</DIV>
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<DIV>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Zulfikar Nore <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com"
target=_blank>zulfikarnore@live.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I've read around that using query_posts is bad but I've
seen many a themes using it and get away with it.
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<DIV>My case is I'm trying to put together a template-blog.php for
StrapVert and this is what I've come up with so far:</DIV>
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<DIV>add_filter('option_show_on_front', '__return_false');</DIV>
<DIV> global $wp_query;</DIV>
<DIV> query_posts(array(</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap"></SPAN> 'paged' =>
$wp_query->get('paged'),</DIV>
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'post__not_in' => get_option('sticky_posts'),</DIV>
<DIV> ));</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> global $more; $more = 0;</DIV>
<DIV> get_template_part('index-blog');</DIV>
<DIV> $more = 1;</DIV>
<DIV>remove_filter('option_show_on_front', '__return_false');</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> wp_reset_query();</DIV>
<DIV>wp_reset_postdata();</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But before I add these changes to the theme and submit an
update I'd like some feedback on "How Really Bad" is query_posts and
can I "get away" with the above?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks in advance,</DIV>
<DIV>Zulf
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