<p dir="ltr">Absolute no to WooCommerce or any other commercial site. This is the policy that was laid before us. I for one will keep that. Responsive and Accessibility are in, let us pass that. No surveys, we will not carry this more than we already did. I dislike long discussion over nothing. Community was involved, provided with the chance to talk, that will wrap this up. And note that it is not up to us, we don't hold the final word B-)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 23, 2013 1:23 AM, "myazalea" <<a href="mailto:myazalea@hotmail.com">myazalea@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div>Big no to a woocommerce tag since its commercial and would be favoring it over other plugins.</div><div><br></div><div>yes to some sort of ecommerce or shop tag</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">
Skickat från min Samsung Mobil</div></div><br><br><br>-------- Originalmeddelande --------<br>Från: Ulrich Pogson <<a href="mailto:grapplerulrich@gmail.com" target="_blank">grapplerulrich@gmail.com</a>> <br>Datum: 23-08-2013 8:17 (GMT+01:00) <br>
Till: "Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers." <<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>> <br>Rubrik: Re: [theme-reviewers] Tags and description. <br>
<br><br><div dir="ltr">I am more for just "Responsive" because if I had to get examples this is what comes to mind first.<div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Responsive: TwentyTwelve</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile-Optimized: Jetpack Mobile Theme</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile: <a href="http://wordpress.org/plugins/wptouch/" target="_blank">WPTouch</a></div>
</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The solutions for "Mobile-Optimized" and "Mobile" are plugins.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">As we have "buddypress" tag there should be a place "bbpress" and even "woocommerce" also.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I think a survey would not be bad so that we can track the responses properly.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
I have created something. Would love some feedback. <a href="http://grapplerulrich.polldaddy.com/s/theme-tag-servey" style="font-family:arial;font-size:small" target="_blank">http://grapplerulrich.polldaddy.com/s/theme-tag-servey</a></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 August 2013 06:37, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Understood, I wasn't aware. And yes for above mobile. Accessibility is on the list too. I think.</p><div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 22, 2013 11:35 PM, "Josh Pollock" <<a href="mailto:jpollock412@gmail.com" target="_blank">jpollock412@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">@justin agreed.<div><br></div><div>We ned to think about more than just mobile/responsive/etc tags.</div><div><br></div><div>What about tags based one end purpose, how do we feel about reviewing those? For instance theme forest has these top level categories for their WordPress themes: Blog/ magazine, creative, corporate, retail, technology, nonprofit, entertainment, miscellaneous, mobile, buddypress, and ecommerce. Could we do tags like that? What about a CMS tag?</div>
<div><br></div><div>@emil - There is no guarantee that there will be new tags. This process is very preliminary. But if a useful set of tags can be generated by the THX38 project, then a new search filtering system based on those tags will have a good shot at being implemented.</div>
<div>I'm trying to take some initiative to bring the theme review team's thoughts on tags back to the THX38 team because I'm the only theme reviewer that was present for the first THX38 meeting and a lot of ideas for new tags were thrown around, which made me worry about how we were going to review them. Basically, I'd rather say, "this is what the theme review team discussion resulted in", then say, "as one of the theme reviewers this is what I think."</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Justin Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com" target="_blank">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I agree with Chip that one tag would be better for end users.
However, I also think we need to propose multiple tags to whoever is
in charge of this. So, having a list of potential tags with their
definitions is what we should put together.<br>
<br>
On that note, I've never had a user ask for an "adaptive" theme.
It's mostly "responsive." But, "mobile-ready" and "mobile-first"
are terms that are also thrown around a bit.<br>
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Also, I dislike the phrase "fluid grid system" when referring to
responsive design. Maybe something along the lines of "a fluid
layout that responds to screen size." Anyway, I'm just nit-picking
words here.<div><div><br>
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<div>On 8/22/2013 10:52 PM, Josh Pollock
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</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>@chip- I think there is a good chance of a lot of new
tags being added. Everyone agrees we need to be able to filter
search results based on tags and the current set of tags doesn't
do it.
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<div>What does it hurt to create a list of tag and definitions
that the theme review team thinks would be useful and we could
review fairly?
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<div>I think it would be better if we brainstormed a list
without any premptive doomsaying, so I can take it back to the
THX38 meeting as the theme review teams ideas on new tags,
instead of just <span></span>bringing own ideas.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My main problem with that is that it's still
adding three tags where currently none exist. I just don't
see that flying with the powers-that-be. I think our best
bet of getting *any* tags added is to keep to a single
tag.
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<div>IMHO, the tag list could probably stand for a bit of
an overhaul - but that would be a bigger discussion than
this one.</div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Josh Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a>jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">How about this:
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<div>Responsive: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">A
theme with a layout that employs a fluid grid
system that changes in response to screen size."</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile-Optimized:
"A theme that adjusts its layout, reduces the
sizes of its media elements and otherwise
improves the page load time and user experience
for mobile."</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile:
"A Theme that is designed to be used only on
mobile devices."</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Notice
I left adaptive off of the list, and I'm open to
leaving mobile off too if its not needed.</span></div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Emil
Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">mobile-responsive and that
includes both?</p>
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Uzelac" <<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>>
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<p dir="ltr">Whatever is better. :-)</p>
<div>On Aug 22, 2013 5:44 PM, "Chip
Bennett" <<a>chip@chipbennett.net</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Remember: those
tags are, primarily, for
*users* rather than for
developers. To the end user:
what's the tangible difference
between "responsive" and
"adaptive"? In this case, "end
user" could be both the site
owner (the one who chooses and
installs the Theme) or the
site visitor (who would view
the website via devices with
various screen sizes).
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<div>Do a developer, I agree
100% that the two terms have
tangible, meaningful
differences.</div>
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<div>I'm just struggling to
see how a user would see any
difference whatsoever. In
both cases, the Theme is
designed to work on devices
with variously small screen
sizes.</div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at
3:34 PM, Josh Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a>jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree and
disagree with Chip. I
agree we need to find
the definition that is
most useful to end users
and two tags with the
same definition is
probably confusing. The
problem is some end
users are more
sophisticated than
others. Some know what
responsive means, some
don't. That said, we
shouldn't equate the
two, because they are
different. GIve me a
little time and I will
propose some new
definitions.
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<div>@Ulrich We can't
just add tags to the
guidelines. They need
to be supported by
core. As part of the
THX38 project this
will most likely
happening. I'm hoping
to go to the next
THX38 meeting with a
list of tags that we,
as theme reviewers,
want added and feel
like we can review
properly.</div>
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2013 at 3:17 PM,
Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a>chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm
one of those
people who
doesn't know
the difference
between
"responsive"
and
"adaptive".
Well, <a href="http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/web-designer/what-is-the-difference-between-responsive-vs-adaptive-web-design/" target="_blank">until just now, because I googled it</a>.
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<div>The TL;DR
of that
article:</div>
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