<div dir="ltr">LOL that's pretty much what I once wrote in description for Responsive Theme:<div><br></div><div><i>Responsive Theme is a flexible foundation with fluid grid system that adapts your </i></div><div><i>website to mobile devices and the desktop or any other viewing environment.</i><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Mainly because Responsive does have its own grid system.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyways, we have enough votes let's proceed to whoever can help us with this.</div><div>One, two or more tags, all good in my book :)</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Justin Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com" target="_blank">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I agree with Chip that one tag would be better for end users.
However, I also think we need to propose multiple tags to whoever is
in charge of this. So, having a list of potential tags with their
definitions is what we should put together.<br>
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On that note, I've never had a user ask for an "adaptive" theme.
It's mostly "responsive." But, "mobile-ready" and "mobile-first"
are terms that are also thrown around a bit.<br>
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Also, I dislike the phrase "fluid grid system" when referring to
responsive design. Maybe something along the lines of "a fluid
layout that responds to screen size." Anyway, I'm just nit-picking
words here.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 8/22/2013 10:52 PM, Josh Pollock
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</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">@chip- I think there is a good chance of a lot of new
tags being added. Everyone agrees we need to be able to filter
search results based on tags and the current set of tags doesn't
do it.
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<div>What does it hurt to create a list of tag and definitions
that the theme review team thinks would be useful and we could
review fairly?
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<div>I think it would be better if we brainstormed a list
without any premptive doomsaying, so I can take it back to the
THX38 meeting as the theme review teams ideas on new tags,
instead of just <span></span>bringing own ideas.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My main problem with that is that it's still
adding three tags where currently none exist. I just don't
see that flying with the powers-that-be. I think our best
bet of getting *any* tags added is to keep to a single
tag.
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<div>IMHO, the tag list could probably stand for a bit of
an overhaul - but that would be a bigger discussion than
this one.</div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Josh Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a>jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">How about this:
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<div>Responsive: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">A
theme with a layout that employs a fluid grid
system that changes in response to screen size."</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile-Optimized:
"A theme that adjusts its layout, reduces the
sizes of its media elements and otherwise
improves the page load time and user experience
for mobile."</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mobile:
"A Theme that is designed to be used only on
mobile devices."</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Notice
I left adaptive off of the list, and I'm open to
leaving mobile off too if its not needed.</span></div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Emil
Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>></span>
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<p dir="ltr">mobile-responsive and that
includes both?</p>
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<div>On Aug 22, 2013 5:46 PM, "Emil
Uzelac" <<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>>
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<p dir="ltr">Whatever is better. :-)</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Remember: those
tags are, primarily, for
*users* rather than for
developers. To the end user:
what's the tangible difference
between "responsive" and
"adaptive"? In this case, "end
user" could be both the site
owner (the one who chooses and
installs the Theme) or the
site visitor (who would view
the website via devices with
various screen sizes).
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<div>Do a developer, I agree
100% that the two terms have
tangible, meaningful
differences.</div>
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<div>I'm just struggling to
see how a user would see any
difference whatsoever. In
both cases, the Theme is
designed to work on devices
with variously small screen
sizes.</div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at
3:34 PM, Josh Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a>jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree and
disagree with Chip. I
agree we need to find
the definition that is
most useful to end users
and two tags with the
same definition is
probably confusing. The
problem is some end
users are more
sophisticated than
others. Some know what
responsive means, some
don't. That said, we
shouldn't equate the
two, because they are
different. GIve me a
little time and I will
propose some new
definitions.
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<div>@Ulrich We can't
just add tags to the
guidelines. They need
to be supported by
core. As part of the
THX38 project this
will most likely
happening. I'm hoping
to go to the next
THX38 meeting with a
list of tags that we,
as theme reviewers,
want added and feel
like we can review
properly.</div>
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2013 at 3:17 PM,
Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a>chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm
one of those
people who
doesn't know
the difference
between
"responsive"
and
"adaptive".
Well, <a href="http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/web-designer/what-is-the-difference-between-responsive-vs-adaptive-web-design/" target="_blank">until just now, because I googled it</a>.
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<div>The TL;DR
of that
article:</div>
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