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<DIV>We have tools, those tools can be used to make a system that is not working
to be more in tune for the volunteer’s that are utilizing them into more
productive system and less problematic to reviewers.</DIV>
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<DIV>To burden the volunteers and developers with stringent regulations is not
the correct route to go, it has become increasingly more difficult and time
consuming to the point where most review volunteers just do not want to continue
participate at the level that which will allow them to. The current
review methodology isn’t working and a new one should be set into motion to
promote and provide a more conducive system.</DIV>
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<DIV>There is a problem, fix it. Utilize resources at the disposal,
increase potential and ease of use. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=chip@chipbennett.net
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">[theme-reviewers]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Formal Request for Change of
Methodology.</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Theme developers cannot develop against a methodology.
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<DIV>If you think that complaints about subjectivity and consistency are bad
now, just imagine how they will be if a mere methodology replaces objective
guidelines.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Methodology: <FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
name="hotword"><FONT color=#333333>noun,</FONT></SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN name="hotword"><FONT
color=#333333>plural</FONT></SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
name="hotword"><FONT color=#333333>meth·od·ol·o·gies.</FONT></SPAN>
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face="Times New Roman"><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN name="hotword"><FONT
color=#333333>a</FONT></SPAN> </FONT></SPAN><A
href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/set" target=_blank><FONT
face="Times New Roman">set</FONT></A><SPAN><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <SPAN name="hotword"><FONT
color=#333333>or</FONT></SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword"><FONT
color=#333333>system</FONT></SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">of</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword"><FONT color=#333333>methods,</FONT></SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword"><FONT color=#333333>principles,</FONT></SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword">and</SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">rules</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword">for</SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">regulating</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword">a</SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">given</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword">discipline,</SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">as</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword">in</SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">the</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword">arts</SPAN> <SPAN name="hotword">or</SPAN> <SPAN
name="hotword"><FONT color=#333333>sciences.</FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#333333 face="Times New Roman">emphasis on “a set or
system of methods”</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=philip@frumph.net href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)</A> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:07 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
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<DIV>Remove all requirements and recommendations, change it all to 'best
practices'</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=chip@chipbennett.net
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target=_blank>Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:05 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>[theme-reviewers]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Formal Request for Change of
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<DIV dir=ltr>That's a workflow, not actual Guidelines.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=chip@chipbennett.net
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target=_blank>Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>[theme-reviewers]</A> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>If you're going to propose a complete overhaul of the Theme
Review philosophy, that will require a complete rewrite of the Theme Review
Guidelines. Please proffer a replacement set of Guidelines - i.e. what exact
content you would have on the Theme Review Codex page. Then we can compare,
contrast, and discuss.
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>1) Remove all requirements and recommendations, change
it all to 'best practices', do not remove anything in the codex just
yet.<BR><BR>2) Theme review process.<BR>* Theme reviewers tag a theme for
review. / It already passed the upload checker<BR>* Check theme with the
other plugin(s)[1] available for development, check it for notices,
warnings, fatals and deprecation messages, Pass/Fail<BR>* Check theme with
theme unit test. Pass/Fail<BR>* Review the tags, website links,
theme name. Pass/Fail<BR><BR>It's done, it's reviewed, it's over, if
it passed all of those, flag it as passing review and live.<BR><BR>3)
Anything else missing on the above list that is a MUST should be added to
the list but only if it's a MUST, and can't go live no
exception.<BR><BR>[1] Make the plugins work for the theme review team; add
common security problems,
etc.<BR><BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<U></U>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR><BR>This
is it, this is all that is needed. Everything else
is icing on the cake for best practices.<BR><BR><BR>Themes are the 'meat
and potatoes' of WordPress, the idea that a theme must adhere and be cross
compatible with other themes in features is a nuance that is unnecessary
to worry about. Plugins are made to enhance themes; if a
plugin doesn't work with a theme the community WILL contact the author;
they always do. As long as the theme is up to date with core
coding which all of the tools at our disposal make you aware of - of which
even the messages from core will also state things it is unnecessary to do
anything otherwise.<BR><BR>// not sure about<BR>Not sure what Nacin wrote
in entirety on the Make site, but having the themes that are live and pass
the upload process and immediately go live again would be a boon; that
basically makes it like the theme developer has svn access, without having
svn
access.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>theme-reviewers
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