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<DIV>There are so many things in ‘hidden fields’ all over the place within WP’s
admin. This argument is seriously invalid.</DIV>
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<DIV>I suppose you want the wp_nonce_field functionality open as well too then
huh?</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=james@wpninjas.com
href="mailto:james@wpninjas.com">james</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:16 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Hidden IP field in theme contact
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shall not. :P<BR><BR>
<DIV>James Laws
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target=_blank>wpninjas.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV id=1><FONT size=3 face=Calibri></FONT><BR>---- On Sat, 11 May 2013 09:15:27
-0500 <B>Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <philip@frumph.net></B> wrote ----
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<DIV>Get over it.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=james@wpninjas.com
href="mailto:james@wpninjas.com" target=_blank>james</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:48 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Hidden IP field in theme contact
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two cents? I don't care what the reasons are for tracking IP or any other
data. You are in my WordPress admin. You are adding things into my Control
Panel that I use to administer my website. I am the supreme king in there and
anything you do in my admin should be fully disclosed, period. Every other
argument is pointless to me until that is settled. My admin, my rights. Add
it, don't add it, but tell me what you are doing when you come into my house.
:)<BR><BR>
<DIV>James Laws
<DIV><A title="The WP Ninjas" href="http://wpninjas.com"
target=_blank>wpninjas.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>---- On Sat, 11 May 2013 07:14:15 -0500 <B>Daniel Fenn <<A
href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com"
target=_blank>danielx386@gmail.com</A>></B> wrote ---- <BR></DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 6px">And
the fact that webservers collect ip addresses as well. (apache,<BR>litespeed
etc)<BR><BR>On 5/11/13, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <<A
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> Yeah, really not having an issue with it, there’s no rule or
regulation<BR>> against sending the IP hidden or otherwise. Mail’s
generally have the<BR>> originators IP in them to begin with, this is
just making sure the IP of the<BR>> ‘real’ originator since it will be
coming from the users server’s location<BR>> in the headers of the
mail.<BR>> Just to point out that regular vanilla WordPress collects IP’s
of comments<BR>> without notifying.<BR>> From: Bryan Hadaway<BR>>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 4:56 PM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>> Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Hidden IP field in theme contact form<BR>><BR>> 1.
To block known bad IPs (like Akismet), to build location stats on
your<BR>> users (no different than GA, nothing unethical about it that I
can tell at<BR>> first glance).<BR>><BR>><BR>> 2. This would be
better asked as why disclose that info? I've never seen a<BR>> form on
any website EVER, do this. That includes .org and .com. I've seen<BR>>
little snippets about why your email address is needed, but I've
absolutely<BR>> NEVER seen in a form in any context EVER have a little
"PS: We also collect<BR>> your IP for spam and banning purposes." And I
sincerely doubt you or anyone<BR>> else on this list has ever seen that
besides buried deep in the bowels of<BR>> the TOS or Privacy Policy fine
print that doesn't really apply in this<BR>> context
anyways.<BR>><BR>><BR>> 3. Because the options are stored in the
db, not sent to someone's inbox. An<BR>> inbox that perhaps would rather
avoid being filled with potentially<BR>> thousands of spam emails or even
if they went to the spam folder. Also, I'm<BR>> sure there are other
serious professionals like myself who aren't negligent<BR>> enough to
simply delete their spam emails without scanning them for false<BR>>
positives first.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hey, maybe this person really does
somehow have malicious intent, though I<BR>> can't imagine how, but
ultimately I'm protected the precedent, not the<BR>> individual use-case
which I think most of us understand is the larger<BR>> concern when these
issues come up.<BR>><BR>><BR>> As to the last bit, that's
programmer speak that goes right over my
head.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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