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<DIV>Get over it.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=james@wpninjas.com
href="mailto:james@wpninjas.com">james</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:48 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Hidden IP field in theme contact
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My
two cents? I don't care what the reasons are for tracking IP or any other data.
You are in my WordPress admin. You are adding things into my Control Panel that
I use to administer my website. I am the supreme king in there and anything you
do in my admin should be fully disclosed, period. Every other argument is
pointless to me until that is settled. My admin, my rights. Add it, don't add
it, but tell me what you are doing when you come into my house. :)<BR><BR>
<DIV>James Laws
<DIV><A title="The WP Ninjas" href="http://wpninjas.com"
target=_blank>wpninjas.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV id=1><BR>---- On Sat, 11 May 2013 07:14:15 -0500 <B>Daniel Fenn
<danielx386@gmail.com></B> wrote ---- <BR></DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 6px">And the
fact that webservers collect ip addresses as well. (apache,<BR>litespeed
etc)<BR><BR>On 5/11/13, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <<A
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> Yeah, really not having an issue with it, there’s no rule or
regulation<BR>> against sending the IP hidden or otherwise. Mail’s
generally have the<BR>> originators IP in them to begin with, this is just
making sure the IP of the<BR>> ‘real’ originator since it will be coming
from the users server’s location<BR>> in the headers of the mail.<BR>>
Just to point out that regular vanilla WordPress collects IP’s of
comments<BR>> without notifying.<BR>> From: Bryan Hadaway<BR>> Sent:
Friday, May 10, 2013 4:56 PM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>> Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Hidden IP field in theme contact form<BR>><BR>> 1. To
block known bad IPs (like Akismet), to build location stats on your<BR>>
users (no different than GA, nothing unethical about it that I can tell
at<BR>> first glance).<BR>><BR>><BR>> 2. This would be better
asked as why disclose that info? I've never seen a<BR>> form on any website
EVER, do this. That includes .org and .com. I've seen<BR>> little snippets
about why your email address is needed, but I've absolutely<BR>> NEVER seen
in a form in any context EVER have a little "PS: We also collect<BR>> your
IP for spam and banning purposes." And I sincerely doubt you or anyone<BR>>
else on this list has ever seen that besides buried deep in the bowels
of<BR>> the TOS or Privacy Policy fine print that doesn't really apply in
this<BR>> context anyways.<BR>><BR>><BR>> 3. Because the options
are stored in the db, not sent to someone's inbox. An<BR>> inbox that
perhaps would rather avoid being filled with potentially<BR>> thousands of
spam emails or even if they went to the spam folder. Also, I'm<BR>> sure
there are other serious professionals like myself who aren't negligent<BR>>
enough to simply delete their spam emails without scanning them for
false<BR>> positives first.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hey, maybe this person
really does somehow have malicious intent, though I<BR>> can't imagine how,
but ultimately I'm protected the precedent, not the<BR>> individual
use-case which I think most of us understand is the larger<BR>> concern
when these issues come up.<BR>><BR>><BR>> As to the last bit, that's
programmer speak that goes right over my head.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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