That was my reasoning, you can't just re-license images that you find online, it doesn't make sense.<div>And there's still the recycle bin icon whose license is uncertain too<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-request@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-request@lists.wordpress.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:06:30 +0530<br>
From: Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] bundled images licenses<br>
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Yes, that was my initial point. Most social networks have similar<br>
restrictions. That make most social icons non gpl even tough the designers<br>
of those icons license them as gpl.<br>
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> That page appears to involve mostly trademark issues, not copyright<br>
> issues. That said, there is this line:<br>
><br>
> Do not modify or alter the marks or use them in a confusing way<br>
><br>
><br>
> To me, that says that the downloads on that page are not distributed under<br>
> a GPL-compatible copyright license.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> A little confused, what i want to know is, can i download the twitter<br>
>> logo from here <a href="https://twitter.com/logo" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/logo</a> and make an icon and release the<br>
>> icon as gpl<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> If you are not the owner of a work, you cannot re-license that work.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So, if you get a social network icon directly from that social network's<br>
>>> site, and the site hasn't distributed that icon under a GPL-compatible<br>
>>> license, then you can't arbitrarily re-license it as GPL. Instead, you'll<br>
>>> need to find a GPL-licensed icon to use instead (or make your own, and then<br>
>>> license them under GPL).<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> If i download the social icons from respective social networks and<br>
>>>> create social icons, can i license them as gpl?<br>
>>>> Because most social networks have rules about how to use their logos<br>
>>>> and thats not GPL?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Well, if you've said that "bundled images are too GPL licensed", then<br>
>>>>> you've explicitly stated the license. :)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Just be sure that the "unless stated otherwise" is accompanied by<br>
>>>>> actually stating otherwise, where applicable.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Abhik Biswas <<a href="mailto:abhik@itsabhik.com">abhik@itsabhik.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Chip,<br>
>>>>>> That's my theme Paul is reviewing. I need a little more help here.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Since those social icons are downloaded directly from their official<br>
>>>>>> sites, do I really have to mention the license? Or just a note about that<br>
>>>>>> will be suffice?<br>
>>>>>> I am thinking something like this in the *readme.txt*.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>> License:<br>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>> The Theme, WPBoxes, is licensed under GPLv3.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The Social Media icons, bundled images are too GPL licensed and owned<br>
>>>>>> by the respective sites, unless stated otherwise.<br>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Please share your thoughts<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> You should require the user to state the license explicitly. The<br>
>>>>>>> links to the source information are good, and should be retained. But the<br>
>>>>>>> license terms for any and all bundled resources need to be included in the<br>
>>>>>>> Theme itself, so that end users and downstream developers don't have to go<br>
>>>>>>> searching for license information.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Paul de Wouters <<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:pauldewouters@gmail.com">pauldewouters@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Hi there,<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing a theme which has a number of bundled social media<br>
>>>>>>>> icons and another one that I traced back here<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="http://rocketdock.com/addon/icons/2724" target="_blank">http://rocketdock.com/addon/icons/2724</a><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> I asked the author to provide links to the original sources of the<br>
>>>>>>>> icons and he did<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/10557/resources.txt" target="_blank">http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/10557/resources.txt</a><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> but nowhere is the license stated. What do other reviewers do in<br>
>>>>>>>> this case?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> thanks<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
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Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:41:28 -0500<br>
From: Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>><br>
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Again: trademark != copyright.<br>
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If a designer makes an original set of social media icons - that is,<br>
creates them him/herself, from scratch - then that designer, as the owner<br>
of that original work, gets to determine the license. There may be<br>
trademark issues involved with using those icons, but those are separate<br>
issues from the copyright issue.<br>
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Yes, that was my initial point. Most social networks have similar<br>
> restrictions. That make most social icons non gpl even tough the designers<br>
> of those icons license them as gpl.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> That page appears to involve mostly trademark issues, not copyright<br>
>> issues. That said, there is this line:<br>
>><br>
>> Do not modify or alter the marks or use them in a confusing way<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> To me, that says that the downloads on that page are not distributed<br>
>> under a GPL-compatible copyright license.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> A little confused, what i want to know is, can i download the twitter<br>
>>> logo from here <a href="https://twitter.com/logo" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/logo</a> and make an icon and release<br>
>>> the icon as gpl<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> If you are not the owner of a work, you cannot re-license that work.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> So, if you get a social network icon directly from that social<br>
>>>> network's site, and the site hasn't distributed that icon under a<br>
>>>> GPL-compatible license, then you can't arbitrarily re-license it as GPL.<br>
>>>> Instead, you'll need to find a GPL-licensed icon to use instead (or make<br>
>>>> your own, and then license them under GPL).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> If i download the social icons from respective social networks and<br>
>>>>> create social icons, can i license them as gpl?<br>
>>>>> Because most social networks have rules about how to use their logos<br>
>>>>> and thats not GPL?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Well, if you've said that "bundled images are too GPL licensed", then<br>
>>>>>> you've explicitly stated the license. :)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Just be sure that the "unless stated otherwise" is accompanied by<br>
>>>>>> actually stating otherwise, where applicable.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Abhik Biswas <<a href="mailto:abhik@itsabhik.com">abhik@itsabhik.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Chip,<br>
>>>>>>> That's my theme Paul is reviewing. I need a little more help here.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Since those social icons are downloaded directly from their official<br>
>>>>>>> sites, do I really have to mention the license? Or just a note about that<br>
>>>>>>> will be suffice?<br>
>>>>>>> I am thinking something like this in the *readme.txt*.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>> License:<br>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>> The Theme, WPBoxes, is licensed under GPLv3.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The Social Media icons, bundled images are too GPL licensed and<br>
>>>>>>> owned by the respective sites, unless stated otherwise.<br>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Please share your thoughts<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> You should require the user to state the license explicitly. The<br>
>>>>>>>> links to the source information are good, and should be retained. But the<br>
>>>>>>>> license terms for any and all bundled resources need to be included in the<br>
>>>>>>>> Theme itself, so that end users and downstream developers don't have to go<br>
>>>>>>>> searching for license information.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Paul de Wouters <<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:pauldewouters@gmail.com">pauldewouters@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Hi there,<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing a theme which has a number of bundled social media<br>
>>>>>>>>> icons and another one that I traced back here<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://rocketdock.com/addon/icons/2724" target="_blank">http://rocketdock.com/addon/icons/2724</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I asked the author to provide links to the original sources of the<br>
>>>>>>>>> icons and he did<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/10557/resources.txt" target="_blank">http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/attachment/ticket/10557/resources.txt</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> but nowhere is the license stated. What do other reviewers do in<br>
>>>>>>>>> this case?<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> thanks<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
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