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    I'm going to make the guideline clear for those who don't understand
    it.&nbsp; If you're going to internationalize your theme, all text
    strings must be internationalized.&nbsp; It's an all-or-nothing deal.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:5051EBD0.3030708@gmail.com" type="cite"> To
      think that any theme user would find the back end text being
      translated to be "possibly more important" than the text his
      visitors see is very unlikely to say the least. I am not sure why
      you would say that.<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Come talk to some of my users.&nbsp; I've got 100s, possibly 1,000s, of
    them who can tell you the back end is what they need translated.&nbsp;
    This is because they blog in English but like to have the admin in
    their native language.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:5051EBD0.3030708@gmail.com" type="cite">
      Besides that the question remains whether it is even required at
      present as per guidelines, there is no indication it is. <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    It is most certainly required.&nbsp; The phrase "public-facing text"
    means any text strings that can be read by someone viewing the site,
    front or back end (i.e., any text printed to the screen).&nbsp; Text that
    does not face the public is text that is not printed to the screen.&nbsp;
    It has nothing to do with front or back end of the site.&nbsp;&nbsp; It has
    everything to do with what can be seen on the site versus what can
    be seen in the code.<br>
    <br>
    Whether you understand the guideline does not alter what the
    guideline means.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:5051EBD0.3030708@gmail.com" type="cite"> <br>
      Flynn<br>
      <br>
      <blockquote
cite="mid:CAE5CyMi-9H=AMzDtiAvqnT41_HztFwWFw6tBHpQV1y3C_v3WiQ@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite"><br clear="all">
        Cais.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Lmm
          Muc <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:lmmmuc@gmail.com" target="_blank">lmmmuc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On the
            subject of translating front-end and/or back-end of a theme:
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.wordpress.org/pipermail/theme-reviewers/2012-September/010664.html"
              target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/pipermail/theme-reviewers/2012-September/010664.html</a><br>
            <br>
            "Public-facing" seems pretty clear to me, both semantically
            and in the context it is being used in the Review Guidelines
            ("public-facing credit link"). It obviously means the text
            on the front end of a web site, the part that faces "the
            public", with the public being the visitors of a site. It
            would be a stretch to count the back end of a theme as
            "facing the public" - &nbsp;in this context.<br>
            <br>
            The amount of text in a theme back end can be huge, even
            more so if a lot of additional usage information is
            provided. It would be an undue burden for translators if
            they had to translate that as well in order to create a full
            translation of a theme. What about illustrational graphics
            in the back end? If we wanted to be really pedantic there
            would also have to be localized versions of graphics that
            contain text. Back end text may also change more frequently
            than text on the the front end.<br>
            <br>
            This should be clarified in the review guidelines. A theme
            should count as being "translation-ready" if all
            public-facing text is localized, with "public facing" being
            all the text that appears or may appear on the front end of
            a site.<br>
            <br>
            It shouldn't be mandatory to have the back end localized as
            well. Perhaps there should be a second theme tag for this?<br>
            <br>
            Greetings<br>
            Flynn<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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              Today's Topics:<br>
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              &nbsp; &nbsp; 1. Translation Support (Vicky Arulsingam)<br>
              &nbsp; &nbsp; 2. Re: Translation Support (Bryan Hadaway)<br>
              &nbsp; &nbsp; 3. Re: Translation Support (Emil Uzelac)<br>
              &nbsp; &nbsp; 4. Re: Translation Support (Vicky Arulsingam)<br>
              &nbsp; &nbsp; 5. Re: Translation Support (Emil Uzelac)<br>
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              Message: 1<br>
              Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:38:00 +0800<br>
              From: Vicky Arulsingam &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:vicky.arulsingam@gmail.com" target="_blank">vicky.arulsingam@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
              Subject: [theme-reviewers] Translation Support<br>
              To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
                target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
              Message-ID:<br>
              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;CALc3iY0uN1k=YTvduK7x2zwj0RmXGW6=<a
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              <br>
              There seems to be some confusion regarding this item in
              the Theme Review<br>
              guidelines in one of the reviews I'm doing with regards to
              Translation<br>
              Support.<br>
              <br>
              "Themes are *required* to have all public-facing text in
              English."<br>
              <br>
              My understanding is that all text the user sees - on the
              front-end (viewing<br>
              the site) and the back-end (admin pages) must be
              localized.<br>
              Others feel that this only refers to the front-end.<br>
              <br>
              I personally find it strange that you're not going to
              translate theme<br>
              options so a clarification would be great.<br>
              <br>
              Or perhaps a better discussion would be: in what cases
              would there be an<br>
              exception to translation e.g. dummy text in special
              templates?<br>
              <br>
              Thanks<br>
              -----<br>
              Vicky Arulsingam<br>
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              Message: 2<br>
              Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:41:26 -0600<br>
              From: Bryan Hadaway &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:bhadaway@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhadaway@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
              Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Translation Support<br>
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              I think so, I'd wait for an admin of course. A good
              appendage also would be<br>
              "*by default*".<br>
              <br>
              So something like:<br>
              <br>
              *Themes are required to have all public-facing (both the
              front-end and<br>
              back-end) text in English by default.*<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Bryan Phillip Hadaway<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Web &amp; Graphic Designer<br>
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              On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Vicky Arulsingam &lt;<br>
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              wrote:<br>
              <br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> There
                seems to be some confusion regarding this item in the
                Theme Review<br>
                guidelines in one of the reviews I'm doing with regards
                to Translation<br>
                Support.<br>
                <br>
                "Themes are *required* to have all public-facing text in
                English."<br>
                <br>
                My understanding is that all text the user sees - on the
                front-end<br>
                (viewing the site) and the back-end (admin pages) must
                be localized.<br>
                Others feel that this only refers to the front-end.<br>
                <br>
                I personally find it strange that you're not going to
                translate theme<br>
                options so a clarification would be great.<br>
                <br>
                Or perhaps a better discussion would be: in what cases
                would there be an<br>
                exception to translation e.g. dummy text in special
                templates?<br>
                <br>
                Thanks<br>
                -----<br>
                Vicky Arulsingam<br>
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              Message: 3<br>
              Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:34:18 -0500<br>
              From: Emil Uzelac &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>&gt;<br>
              Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Translation Support<br>
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              This is actually pretty straightforward (IMO).<br>
              <br>
              Public-facing: *Theme Created by Author* (front-end)
              *Theme Options... etc..<br>
              * (back-end) examples only.<br>
              <br>
              So if author is including e.g. Theme Options, all that
              should be in English<br>
              too, but also everything else visible to the user.<br>
              <br>
              Localization in this case is not a requirement :)<br>
              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              Emil<br>
              <br>
              On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Bryan Hadaway &lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bhadaway@gmail.com"
                target="_blank">bhadaway@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
              <br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I
                think so, I'd wait for an admin of course. A good
                appendage also would<br>
                be "*by default*".<br>
                <br>
                So something like:<br>
                <br>
                *Themes are required to have all public-facing (both the
                front-end and<br>
                back-end) text in English by default.*<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Bryan Phillip Hadaway<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Web &amp; Graphic Designer<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://calmestghost.com"
                  target="_blank">calmestghost.com</a><br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Vicky Arulsingam &lt;<br>
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                wrote:<br>
                <br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  There seems to be some confusion regarding this item
                  in the Theme Review<br>
                  guidelines in one of the reviews I'm doing with
                  regards to Translation<br>
                  Support.<br>
                  <br>
                  "Themes are *required* to have all public-facing text
                  in English."<br>
                  <br>
                  My understanding is that all text the user sees - on
                  the front-end<br>
                  (viewing the site) and the back-end (admin pages) must
                  be localized.<br>
                  Others feel that this only refers to the front-end.<br>
                  <br>
                  I personally find it strange that you're not going to
                  translate theme<br>
                  options so a clarification would be great.<br>
                  <br>
                  Or perhaps a better discussion would be: in what cases
                  would there be an<br>
                  exception to translation e.g. dummy text in special
                  templates?<br>
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                  Thanks<br>
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                  Vicky Arulsingam<br>
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              Message: 4<br>
              Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:47:48 +0800<br>
              From: Vicky Arulsingam &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:vicky.arulsingam@gmail.com" target="_blank">vicky.arulsingam@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
              Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Translation Support<br>
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              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;CALc3iY2bs+zMRnyNqfsfOTnhhr+rnH5qK8=<a
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              I agree with you - "Public facing" = "Everything the user
              sees"<br>
              <br>
              I understand that localization is optional. The situation
              is the theme<br>
              author is supporting translation but he has only localized
              the template<br>
              files because he understands that "Public-Facing" is just
              the front-end.<br>
              The theme options haven't been localized.<br>
              <br>
              I just wanted to make sure that everyone here has the same
              understanding :)<br>
              <br>
              Thanks<br>
              -----<br>
              Vicky Arulsingam<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Emil Uzelac &lt;<a
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                target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
              <br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> This
                is actually pretty straightforward (IMO).<br>
                <br>
                Public-facing: *Theme Created by Author* (front-end)
                *Theme Options...<br>
                etc..* (back-end) examples only.<br>
                <br>
                So if author is including e.g. Theme Options, all that
                should be in<br>
                English too, but also everything else visible to the
                user.<br>
                <br>
                Localization in this case is not a requirement :)<br>
                <br>
                Thanks,<br>
                Emil<br>
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              Message: 5<br>
              Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:58:09 -0500<br>
              From: Emil Uzelac &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>&gt;<br>
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              it's all good :)<br>
              <br>
              Emil<br>
              <br>
              On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Vicky Arulsingam &lt;<br>
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              wrote:<br>
              <br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I
                agree with you - "Public facing" = "Everything the user
                sees"<br>
                <br>
                I understand that localization is optional. The
                situation is the theme<br>
                author is supporting translation but he has only
                localized the template<br>
                files because he understands that "Public-Facing" is
                just the front-end.<br>
                The theme options haven't been localized.<br>
                <br>
                I just wanted to make sure that everyone here has the
                same understanding :)<br>
                <br>
                Thanks<br>
                -----<br>
                Vicky Arulsingam<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Emil Uzelac &lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:emil@themeid.com"
                  target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
                <br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  This is actually pretty straightforward (IMO).<br>
                  <br>
                  Public-facing: *Theme Created by Author* (front-end)
                  *Theme Options...<br>
                  etc..* (back-end) examples only.<br>
                  <br>
                  So if author is including e.g. Theme Options, all that
                  should be in<br>
                  English too, but also everything else visible to the
                  user.<br>
                  <br>
                  Localization in this case is not a requirement :)<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks,<br>
                  Emil<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
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