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      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">&nbsp;This is one of the favorite
        features of many of my theme users.</div>
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      cite="mid:52130DFB-11B3-4128-9815-4FF4E5DA62A4@obenland.it"
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      <div>What is? Your custom Widgets, or you deregistering core
        widgets?</div>
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    Exactly what I said in the first sentence of my message:
    "de-registering core widgets and registering custom widgets to
    replace them".<br>
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    On 6/1/2012 9:09 AM, Konstantin Obenland wrote:
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">&nbsp;This is one of the
            favorite features of many of my theme users.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>What is? Your custom Widgets, or you deregistering core
        widgets?</div>
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      <div>Again: My point is not that you shouldn't register custom
        widgets, I just don't see a reason for Themes to disable core
        Widgets.</div>
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        <div>On 01.06.2012, at 15:49, Justin Tadlock wrote:</div>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I've been
            de-registering core widgets and registering custom widgets
            to replace them for years without any user problems.<br>
            <br>
            De-registering widgets should not cause issues with core
            code.&nbsp; Core provides the built-in functionality to do the
            de-registering.<br>
            <br>
            This is also not a niche use-case.&nbsp; This is one of the
            favorite features of many of my theme users.&nbsp; Most of these
            users just have a regular blog with nothing particularly
            niche about it.&nbsp; They just like to have some level of
            control over how widgets are output, which is what all my
            themes provide.<br>
            <br>
            On 6/1/2012 7:59 AM, Edward Caissie wrote:
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cite="mid:CAE5CyMhH6kZKOagVOxiTH6tbx2F8t86jOb0xAWLEjXD71eGVTA@mail.gmail.com"
              type="cite">I'm leaning very strongly towards *not*
              de-registering core widgets ... add as many (as
              reasonable) theme specific/custom widgets you want, but I
              agree too much work has gone into insuring widgets remain
              between themes. I would expect de-registering them to
              cause issues with the core code.<br>
              <br>
              If this conversation was in regards to a non-repository
              theme I probably would not see any issue as it would then
              likely also be a niche use-case which typically is not the
              guiding principle behind a theme released to the
              repository.<br>
              <br>
              <br clear="all">
              Cais.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM,
                Konstantin Obenland <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:konstantin@obenland.it" target="_blank">konstantin@obenland.it</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div style="word-wrap:break-word">For what it's worth:
                    <div>By extending the core widget and registering
                      the extending class, you can overwrite methods of
                      the core widget class:&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://gist.github.com/2851784"
                        target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/2851784</a></div>
                    <div>But honestly, I think that's even worse,
                      because now they&nbsp;<i>look</i>&nbsp;like a core widget
                      but behave differently :)</div>
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                    </div>
                    <div>Sorry, but I still don't buy in. :) Aren't we
                      here on the functionality side of Presentation vs.
                      Functionality? Where is the line between
                      deregistering a core widget and removing an image
                      size (for the lack of a better example)?</div>
                    <div>Core worked so hard on providing the ability to
                      retain Widgets on Theme switch - and then the
                      widgets themselves are gone...</div>
                    <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Konstantin</div>
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                          <div>On 01.06.2012, at 14:25, Chip Bennett
                            wrote:</div>
                          <br>
                          <blockquote type="cite">Because having two
                            Widgets with equivalent functionality is
                            redundant and confusing, and adds to the
                            already crowded/poor UX of the Appearance
                            -&gt; Widgets screen. :)
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                            <div>Chip<br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, Jun 1,
                                2012 at 7:08 AM, Konstantin Obenland <span
                                  dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:konstantin@obenland.it"
                                    target="_blank">konstantin@obenland.it</a>&gt;</span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div style="word-wrap:break-word">@chipbennett:

                                    <div>
                                      <div>You're referring to Oenology,
                                        right?
                                        <div>Why are you deregistering
                                          the core Widgets, rather than
                                          just adding your custom ones?
                                          :)</div>
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                                        <div>@Frumph</div>
                                        <div>What benefit does it have?
                                          Why not just <i>add</i>
                                          custom widgets to the existing
                                          ones?</div>
                                        <div>I think it would affect
                                          user experience, as they might
                                          expect certain core widgets to
                                          be there, and all over sudden
                                          they're gone or their behavior
                                          changed.</div>
                                        <span><font color="#888888">
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Konstantin</div>
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                                              <div>On 01.06.2012, at
                                                14:00, Philip M. Hofer
                                                (Frumph) wrote:</div>
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                                                      <div>Q. Does it
                                                        affect any
                                                        plugins or other
                                                        stripends if
                                                        someone did
                                                        deregister and
                                                        reregister their
                                                        custom widgets?&nbsp;
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>A. No? (can&#8217;t
                                                        think of any)</div>
                                                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                      <div
style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';display:inline;font-weight:normal">
                                                        <div
                                                          style="FONT:10pt
                                                          tahoma">
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <div><b>From:</b>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
                                                          target="_blank">Chip

                                                          Bennett</a> </div>
                                                          <div><b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Friday, June
                                                          01, 2012 4:43
                                                          AM</div>
                                                          <div><b>To:</b>
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title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
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                                                          <div><b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [theme-reviewers]
                                                          Unregistering
                                                          default
                                                          widgets</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div
style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';display:inline;font-weight:normal">Actually,

                                                        I use this.
                                                        Mainly due to a
                                                        lack of a better
                                                        work-around
                                                        (though I'm open
                                                        to ideas). I
                                                        needed to modify
                                                        the container
                                                        markup slightly,
                                                        to implement the
                                                        "show/hide"
                                                        links for the
                                                        Widgets. Rather
                                                        than simply
                                                        forking the core
                                                        Widgets as *new*
                                                        Widgets, I
                                                        deregister the
                                                        core Widgets,
                                                        and then
                                                        re-register my
                                                        modified
                                                        versions.&nbsp;
                                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                        <div>I don't
                                                          mind using a
                                                          different
                                                          approach, if
                                                          anyone has a
                                                          good
                                                          suggestion. I
                                                          mainly just
                                                          don't want to
                                                          load jQuery
                                                          just for such
                                                          a simple
                                                          effect.</div>
                                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                        <div>Chip<br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Jun 1,
                                                          2012 at 3:19
                                                          AM, Emil
                                                          Uzelac <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote"><font color="#333333"><font
                                                          face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
                                                          am pretty sure
                                                          that this
                                                          would be
                                                          considered as
                                                          "locking" the
                                                          core
                                                          functionalities
                                                          and not really
                                                          sure what
                                                          would be the
                                                          reason and
                                                          scenario when
                                                          author would
                                                          unregister
                                                          default widget
                                                          and replace
                                                          them with
                                                          Theme-specific.
                                                          If this is not
                                                          in review and
                                                          I can't find
                                                          it either,
                                                          well it should
                                                          be for sure.
                                                          Good eye
                                                          Konstantin!</font></font>
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                                                          <div><font
                                                          color="#333333"
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          helvetica,
                                                          sans-serif">My
                                                          2c!<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          </font></span></font><span><font
color="#888888">
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                                                          color="#333333"><font
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                                                          <div><span><font
color="#888888"><font color="#333333"><font
                                                          face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Emil

                                                          <br>
                                                          </font></font></font></span>
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                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Jun 1,
                                                          2012 at 3:08
                                                          AM, Konstantin
                                                          Obenland <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:konstantin@obenland.it"
                                                          target="_blank">konstantin@obenland.it</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote">Hi all,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I didn't find
                                                          documentation
                                                          on whether it
                                                          is allowed for
                                                          Theme authors
                                                          to unregister
                                                          default
                                                          widgets.<br>
                                                          Is it?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thanks,<br>
                                                          Konstantin<br>
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