<p>Yes we are. I will leave nofollow to Yoast.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 6, 2012 4:34 PM, "Angelo Bertolli" <<a href="mailto:angelo@bertolli.org">angelo@bertolli.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Backlinks to the theme's home page could have nofollow in them, although<br>
I suspect that not too many people would do this.<br>
<br>
Anyway, I will correct myself: Â we're just talking about guidelines, right?<br>
<br>
<br>
On 03/06/2012 05:32 PM, Emil Uzelac wrote:<br>
> Why would you use nofollow?<br>
><br>
> On Mar 6, 2012 4:30 PM, "Angelo Bertolli" <<a href="mailto:angelo@bertolli.org">angelo@bertolli.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:angelo@bertolli.org">angelo@bertolli.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Â Â So are theme developers also restricted from using nofollow? Â It is<br>
> Â Â functional.<br>
><br>
> Â Â I don't think theme developers should be restricted from using<br>
> Â Â rel="canonical" just because some of them may use it wrong, or because<br>
> Â Â Google treats it a certain way for search results.<br>
><br>
> Â Â On 03/06/2012 05:24 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:<br>
> Â Â > The criterion for me is Presentational vs Functinoal. I think that<br>
> Â Â > rel=canonical clearly falls under "Functional", and therefore is Plugin<br>
> Â Â > territory.<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Chip<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Emil Uzelac <<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a><br>
> Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a>><br>
> Â Â > <mailto:<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â I was reading from my phone....<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â I agree that Themes should not mess with rel="canonical" at all.<br>
> Â Â > Â Â Majority people are devs not SEO consultants. Required not to<br>
> Â Â use is<br>
> Â Â > Â Â what I believe we should do.<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â On Mar 6, 2012 4:17 PM, "Joost de Valk" <<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a><br>
> Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a>><br>
> Â Â > Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â It has nothing to do with using my plugin or not. It's<br>
> Â Â something<br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â even my plugin can't fix :-)<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â Best,<br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â Joost<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â Sent from my iPhone<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â On 6 mrt. 2012, at 23:14, Emil Uzelac <<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a><br>
> Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a>><br>
> Â Â > Â Â Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com">emil@themeid.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> Â Â ><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â If they do not use your plugin would this hurt the SEO?<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â On Mar 6, 2012 3:47 PM, "Joost de Valk" <<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a><br>
> Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a>><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joost@yoast.com">joost@yoast.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Hi all,<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â tldr version: I would like a guideline that tells theme<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â developers to /not/ include a rel=canonical link in their<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â theme as it hurts people more than it helps in a lot<br>
> Â Â of cases.<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â long version:<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â As some of you probably know, I do a lot of SEO<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â consultancy. Some of it is related to people who have<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â suddenly lost all their rankings and want me to help fix<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â it for them. Today I helped out a blogger, unpaid because<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â I just liked his blog as it was about children with Down<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Syndrome.<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â He had recently switched themes /and /started using my<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â WordPress SEO plugin, and of course he was blaming my<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â plugin for his sudden loss of rankings. What I found out<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â though, was that the theme had the following rel=canonical<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â link in the header.php:<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â <link rel="canonical" href="<?php echo home_url(); ?>" /><br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â above the call to wp_head. This was causing each<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â individual post to have a canonical point back to the<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â homepage. Now you should know that Google especially sees<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â a canonical as somewhat of a "soft 301 redirect". It<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â basically takes a page that has a canonical pointing<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â elsewhere out of the rankings. The effect is quite<br>
> Â Â dramatic.<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â This was a premium theme, whose authors I have since<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â emailed. It got me thinking though: is this in the WP.org<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://WP.org" target="_blank">http://WP.org</a>> guidelines? Apparently, it's not.<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â WordPress itself adds a rel="canonical" through wp_head on<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â single pages, and there's a patch in Trac to add it on<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â more pages. There are several themes in the repository<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â though that have absolutely 100% wrong canonical links in<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â their header.<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â This one: <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/digu" target="_blank">http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/digu</a> is an<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â example. It's not popular and hasn't been updated in ages<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â so I wouldn't normally care too much, but I wanted to use<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â it as an example. It has the following code:<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â <?php if(is_single()){ ?><link rel="canonical" href="<?php<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â echo get_permalink($post->ID),"\n";?>" /><?php }?><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â <?php if(is_home() || is_tag() || is_category() ||<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â is_month() || is_year()){ ?><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â <link rel="canonical" href="<?php bloginfo('url');?>"<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â /><?php echo "\n"; }?><br>
>   >>       …. snip ….<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â <?php } ?><br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Using that theme on a live site could kill your rankings<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â instantly, as it would make all category listings etc have<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â canonicals linking back to the homepage. In most cases<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â this would prevent Google from spidering the links to the<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â posts on those pages.<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Now some themes, like Thematic and Hybrid, have somewhat<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â more sensible canonical functions, which makes this a hard<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â discussion. I would vote to call it plugin territory<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â though and keep it out of themes completely. Would love to<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â hear your opinions.<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Best<br>
> Â Â >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Joost<br>
> Â Â >><br>
> Â Â >><br>
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