Just to clarify: WPORG is *NOT* part of Automattic. They are entirely separate entities.<div><br></div><div>The WordPress project is under the direction/control/ownership of the non-profit WordPress Foundation. Automattic is a commercial venture that owns, among other things, WordPress.com. The primary connection between the two is, of course, Matt Mullenweg; but they are, in fact, entirely separate.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If Automattic really wanted to "invest" in the Theme Review Team, I would suggest having their "Theme Wranglers" pitching in to perform Theme reviews. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Chip</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Chandra Maharzan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maharzan@gmail.com">maharzan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Cool.. I am just pitching to see if money incentives would work for<br>
both reviewers and in turn to designers who wait 2 or 3 months to get<br>
reviewed (which is frustrating, of course as you know). I don't blame<br>
anyone as its a free thing. I thought .org being a part of Automattic<br>
(correct me if I am wrong) could just "invest" a bit so we really get<br>
great themes on the .org as well (not saying it doesn't have). But as<br>
you said, if this is purely free thing, I take it all back. :-)<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Nitin Reddy <<a href="mailto:k_nitin_r@yahoo.co.in">k_nitin_r@yahoo.co.in</a>> wrote:<br>
> Chandra Maharzan,<br>
><br>
> It is not only the theme authors but also the theme reviewers who get<br>
> discouraged at times. I reviewed the theme listed on my first ticket and<br>
> should have been able to assign myself to another ticket (new version of the<br>
> theme). However, there was a problem with my Trac account and I'm not able<br>
> to assign the ticket for the new (fixed) version of the theme to myself or<br>
> close the original ticket so both the theme author and I are looking at our<br>
> spent efforts yielding no fruit for the community.<br>
><br>
> I did try posting to the mailing list and contact some of the folks<br>
> associated with the WP theme repository, but I didn't get any help yet. At<br>
> this point, Emil sees my user account listed as a theme reviewer account (or<br>
> something along those lines), my account doesn't let me assign the ticket to<br>
> myself or close the old ticket, and the theme author is awaiting the<br>
> approval after having made the fixes to his/her theme.<br>
><br>
> The problem is not about volunteers lacking dedication - many, if not most,<br>
> are dedicated to helping out the community. The problem is about not being<br>
> able to help the volunteers when the process or system (Trac, in my case)<br>
> breaks down. I can review at least 3 themes a week. That works out to about<br>
> 14 themes in a month. With 10 volunteers, we can have 140 themes reviewed in<br>
> a month!<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Nitin Reddy<br>
><br>
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:26:31 +0545<br>
> From: Chandra Maharzan <<a href="mailto:maharzan@gmail.com">maharzan@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> I haven't reviewed any themes but I do think this volunteer thing<br>
> might need to go at some point. Have a dedicated team who reviews<br>
> themes and they get incentives on each theme or something. Otherwise<br>
> like a person said above, people are discouraged. I was when I<br>
> submitted a theme about a year ago and it was reviewed in a long time<br>
> and the same thing is happening now. And I have 2 themes in the repo,<br>
> pretty popular ones. I am sure many designers feel like me.<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Phenomenoodle | Taryn Wallis<br>
> <<a href="mailto:taryn@phenomenoodle.com">taryn@phenomenoodle.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Up until about 5 years ago (when I transitioned into web design full-time)<br>
>> I<br>
>> was an Organizational Psychologist - things like badges work well as a<br>
>> motivational tool for some types of people, and absolutely not for others.<br>
>> I'm one of the others :)<br>
>><br>
>> If there was a badge, I might consider putting it on my site, but it would<br>
>> have zero impact from an incentive point of view. I'm far more internally<br>
>> motivated, so external things like badges (or certificates etc) have no<br>
>> real<br>
>> meaning to me. In terms of theme reviews, I contribute because it allows<br>
>> me<br>
>> to give back to the community and to also learn from the experience - if<br>
>> I'm<br>
>> not able to do reviews, it's not because of lack of motivation, but simply<br>
>> a<br>
>> lack of time :(<br>
>><br>
>> ______________________________<br>
>> Taryn Wallis<br>
>> Phenomenoodle<br>
>> WordPress design & development<br>
>> <a href="http://www.phenomenoodle.com" target="_blank">www.phenomenoodle.com</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Netzberufler<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:netzberufler@googlemail.com">netzberufler@googlemail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I find Badges are a great idea. They should also be included into the<br>
>>> WordPress Profile Pages. <a href="http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/" target="_blank">http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/</a> or<br>
>>> <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/" target="_blank">http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/</a> . BTW why are there different<br>
>>> profile pages on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a>?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I currently don't review themes cause of my exams but I will begin<br>
>>> reviewing again in 2 weeks ;)<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2012/1/26 Rankin, Matthew W. (Student) <<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> Not directly related to this email thread but seems like a good place to<br>
>>>> post it. I was thinking about why there aren't more volunteer reviewers<br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> why many are slow to review themes. I think it may be because it lacks<br>
>>>> incentive. So, I had an idea which may attract more reviewers and<br>
>>>> increase<br>
>>>> productivity among current reviewers. My idea is to create a WordPress<br>
>>>> badge. Theme reviewers can post this badge on their own websites to say<br>
>>>> that<br>
>>>> they contribute to WordPress. You could even create different levels of<br>
>>>> badges so as you review more themes you get higher level badges. It's a<br>
>>>> simple idea which has proven effective on many websites around the web.<br>
>>>> What<br>
>>>> does everyone else think of this idea?<br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Rankin,<br>
>>>> Matthew<br>
>>>> W. (Student) [<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>]<br>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49 PM<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'll do my best to follow your lead Chip. I've just been so busy lately<br>
>>>> I<br>
>>>> haven't had time to do many reviews. But I should be able to fit in one<br>
>>>> theme a day.<br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Chip Bennett<br>
>>>> [<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>]<br>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:31 PM<br>
>>>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I don't think a paradigm shift is necessary (or helpful) at this point.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The bottom line is: about 10 tickets per day are submitted. Thus, we<br>
>>>> need<br>
>>>> about 10 tickets per day reviewed and closed, in order to keep up with<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> submission rate. We are approaching 100 people who have reviewed Themes.<br>
>>>> If<br>
>>>> every person with ticket privileges reviewed two tickets, we would<br>
>>>> exhaust<br>
>>>> the current queue entirely.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I've tried to push in the past to get reviewers to consider committing<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> a certain minimum level of participation, but as you've noted: it's not<br>
>>>> practical. We ARE all volunteers, and all have extremely busy schedules.<br>
>>>> (I<br>
>>>> last saw a "40-hour work week" sometime last summer.) Efforts to get<br>
>>>> such<br>
>>>> commitments inevitably have the opposite effect, as IMX they have only<br>
>>>> driven volunteers AWAY from contributing their time.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> That said: I'll do my best to lead by example. I will commit to<br>
>>>> reviewing<br>
>>>> one Theme per day, every day.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Chip<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Edward Caissie<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Although it shouldn't need to be written, but once again it appears a<br>
>>>>> reminder appears to be needed ...<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, every member of the current Theme Review<br>
>>>>> Team is a volunteer. Every member also has a "full work load" with many<br>
>>>>> simply unable to devote any time to this volunteer activity during that<br>
>>>>> scheduled time. Many of the volunteers have other additional WordPress<br>
>>>>> related activities that add to their typical "40-hour week" work load.<br>
>>>>> We<br>
>>>>> all have lives, too ... so, quite simply, we give what time we can and<br>
>>>>> look<br>
>>>>> to the community to contribute some of their time. Wait times, as noted<br>
>>>>> many<br>
>>>>> times, are inversely proportional to the amount of volunteer reviewers<br>
>>>>> available to do the work.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> We can appreciate the wait time is long and frustrating. This is not<br>
>>>>> the<br>
>>>>> only time this topic has been discussed, these are not the only ideas<br>
>>>>> that<br>
>>>>> have been considered. Unfortunately until their is perhaps a paradigm<br>
>>>>> shift<br>
>>>>> in regards to the WPTRT we may simply be forced to continue to endure<br>
>>>>> and<br>
>>>>> forge ahead under these conditions.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Cais.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bruce Wampler <<a href="mailto:weavertheme@gmail.com">weavertheme@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I would like to add my perspective on the review process.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I have been submitting one theme - with revisions and slight name<br>
>>>>>> modifications - for almost two years now - starting with 2010 Weaver,<br>
>>>>>> changed to simply Weaver, and now Weaver II.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Because Weaver II is a name change, and represents a total rewrite of<br>
>>>>>> Weaver, it has been in the Priority Queue for almost 3 months now.<br>
>>>>>> I've just<br>
>>>>>> been sitting here waiting my turn.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> But seriously - three months for new themes? The past week, the review<br>
>>>>>> rate has been only one new theme reviewed.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> It is important to keep existing themes up to date - but to<br>
>>>>>> essentially<br>
>>>>>> have the new theme approval rate one a week will do nothing to<br>
>>>>>> encourage<br>
>>>>>> authors to submit new themes.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I had good reasons to change from Weaver to Weaver II, and perhaps<br>
>>>>>> should have requested it be treated as a revision of the existing<br>
>>>>>> approved<br>
>>>>>> theme. But I don know if I knew three months ago, that I likely would<br>
>>>>>> have<br>
>>>>>> done things differently, including the possibility of simply<br>
>>>>>> abandoning the<br>
>>>>>> WP theme repository.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> But Weaver II represents a cutting edge theme/framework that has (or<br>
>>>>>> had three months ago) really new features, including what I think is<br>
>>>>>> likely<br>
>>>>>> the best mobile support of any WP theme. It is really frustrating to<br>
>>>>>> see it<br>
>>>>>> languish in the queue.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I just think a almost three month wait is excessive, and will<br>
>>>>>> seriously<br>
>>>>>> discourage developers from developing and submitting new themes.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The discussion of new 3.4 features seems almost silly since if the new<br>
>>>>>> queue theme stays at several months, it is likely that there won't be<br>
>>>>>> any<br>
>>>>>> new themes.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I believe is really important to keep fresh, new themes with cutting<br>
>>>>>> edge features coming in for the future health of WordPress.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Just some thoughts. I believe something needs to be done. I'd<br>
>>>>>> volunteer<br>
>>>>>> to review some themes, but I have serious ethical concerns about that,<br>
>>>>>> as<br>
>>>>>> well as a full work load supporting my theme which has become very<br>
>>>>>> popular<br>
>>>>>> on its own while waiting on the queue.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Bruce Wampler<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:09:37 +0000<br>
> From: Simon Prosser <<a href="mailto:pross@pross.org.uk">pross@pross.org.uk</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
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> What incentives? <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a> is a free organization and the theme<br>
> team volunteer the time to review themes in their spare time.<br>
> They all have regular jobs and lives as well.<br>
><br>
> On 27 January 2012 13:41, Chandra Maharzan <<a href="mailto:maharzan@gmail.com">maharzan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I haven't reviewed any themes but I do think ?this volunteer thing<br>
>> might need to go at some point. Have a dedicated team who reviews<br>
>> themes and they get incentives on each theme or something. Otherwise<br>
>> like a person said above, people are discouraged. I was when I<br>
>> submitted a theme about a year ago and it was reviewed in a long time<br>
>> and the same thing is happening now. And I have 2 themes in the repo,<br>
>> pretty popular ones. I am sure many designers feel like me.<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Phenomenoodle | Taryn Wallis<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:taryn@phenomenoodle.com">taryn@phenomenoodle.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Up until about 5 years ago (when I transitioned into web design<br>
>>> full-time) I<br>
>>> was an Organizational Psychologist - things like badges work well as a<br>
>>> motivational tool for some types of people, and absolutely not for<br>
>>> others.<br>
>>> I'm one of the others :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> If there was a badge, I might consider putting it on my site, but it<br>
>>> would<br>
>>> have zero impact from an incentive point of view. I'm far more internally<br>
>>> motivated, so external things like badges (or certificates etc) have no<br>
>>> real<br>
>>> meaning to me. In terms of theme reviews, I contribute because it allows<br>
>>> me<br>
>>> to give back to the community and to also learn from the experience - if<br>
>>> I'm<br>
>>> not able to do reviews, it's not because of lack of motivation, but<br>
>>> simply a<br>
>>> lack of time :(<br>
>>><br>
>>> ______________________________<br>
>>> Taryn Wallis<br>
>>> Phenomenoodle<br>
>>> WordPress design & development<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.phenomenoodle.com" target="_blank">www.phenomenoodle.com</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Netzberufler<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:netzberufler@googlemail.com">netzberufler@googlemail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I find Badges are a great idea. They should also be included into the<br>
>>>> WordPress Profile Pages. <a href="http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/" target="_blank">http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/</a> or<br>
>>>> <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/" target="_blank">http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/</a> . BTW why are there<br>
>>>> different<br>
>>>> profile pages on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a>?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I currently don't review themes cause of my exams but I will begin<br>
>>>> reviewing again in 2 weeks ;)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2012/1/26 Rankin, Matthew W. (Student) <<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Not directly related to this email thread but seems like a good place<br>
>>>>> to<br>
>>>>> post it. I was thinking about why there aren't more volunteer reviewers<br>
>>>>> and<br>
>>>>> why many are slow to review themes. I think it may be because it lacks<br>
>>>>> incentive. So, I had an idea which may attract more reviewers and<br>
>>>>> increase<br>
>>>>> productivity among current reviewers. My idea is to create a WordPress<br>
>>>>> badge. Theme reviewers can post this badge on their own websites to say<br>
>>>>> that<br>
>>>>> they contribute to WordPress. You could even create different levels of<br>
>>>>> badges so as you review more themes you get higher level badges. It's a<br>
>>>>> simple idea which has proven effective on many websites around the web.<br>
>>>>> What<br>
>>>>> does everyone else think of this idea?<br>
>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Rankin,<br>
>>>>> Matthew<br>
>>>>> W. (Student) [<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>]<br>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49 PM<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I'll do my best to follow your lead Chip. I've just been so busy lately<br>
>>>>> I<br>
>>>>> haven't had time to do many reviews. But I should be able to fit in one<br>
>>>>> theme a day.<br>
>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Chip Bennett<br>
>>>>> [<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>]<br>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:31 PM<br>
>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I don't think a paradigm shift is necessary (or helpful) at this point.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The bottom line is: about 10 tickets per day are submitted. Thus, we<br>
>>>>> need<br>
>>>>> about 10 tickets per day reviewed and closed, in order to keep up with<br>
>>>>> the<br>
>>>>> submission rate. We are approaching 100 people who have reviewed<br>
>>>>> Themes. If<br>
>>>>> every person with ticket privileges reviewed two tickets, we would<br>
>>>>> exhaust<br>
>>>>> the current queue entirely.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I've tried to push in the past to get reviewers to consider committing<br>
>>>>> to<br>
>>>>> a certain minimum level of participation, but as you've noted: it's not<br>
>>>>> practical. We ARE all volunteers, and all have extremely busy<br>
>>>>> schedules. (I<br>
>>>>> last saw a "40-hour work week" sometime last summer.) Efforts to get<br>
>>>>> such<br>
>>>>> commitments inevitably have the opposite effect, as IMX they have only<br>
>>>>> driven volunteers AWAY from contributing their time.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> That said: I'll do my best to lead by example. I will commit to<br>
>>>>> reviewing<br>
>>>>> one Theme per day, every day.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Chip<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Edward Caissie<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Although it shouldn't need to be written, but once again it appears a<br>
>>>>>> reminder appears to be needed ...<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, every member of the current Theme Review<br>
>>>>>> Team is a volunteer. Every member also has a "full work load" with<br>
>>>>>> many<br>
>>>>>> simply unable to devote any time to this volunteer activity during<br>
>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>>> scheduled time. Many of the volunteers have other additional WordPress<br>
>>>>>> related activities that add to their typical "40-hour week" work load.<br>
>>>>>> We<br>
>>>>>> all have lives, too ... so, quite simply, we give what time we can and<br>
>>>>>> look<br>
>>>>>> to the community to contribute some of their time. Wait times, as<br>
>>>>>> noted many<br>
>>>>>> times, are inversely proportional to the amount of volunteer reviewers<br>
>>>>>> available to do the work.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> We can appreciate the wait time is long and frustrating. This is not<br>
>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>> only time this topic has been discussed, these are not the only ideas<br>
>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>>> have been considered. Unfortunately until their is perhaps a paradigm<br>
>>>>>> shift<br>
>>>>>> in regards to the WPTRT we may simply be forced to continue to endure<br>
>>>>>> and<br>
>>>>>> forge ahead under these conditions.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Cais.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bruce Wampler<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:weavertheme@gmail.com">weavertheme@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I would like to add my perspective on the review process.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I have been submitting one theme - with revisions and slight name<br>
>>>>>>> modifications - for almost two years now - starting with 2010 Weaver,<br>
>>>>>>> changed to simply Weaver, and now Weaver II.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Because Weaver II is a name change, and represents a total rewrite of<br>
>>>>>>> Weaver, it has been in the Priority Queue for almost 3 months now.<br>
>>>>>>> I've just<br>
>>>>>>> been sitting here waiting my turn.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> But seriously - three months for new themes? The past week, the<br>
>>>>>>> review<br>
>>>>>>> rate has been only one new theme reviewed.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> It is important to keep existing themes up to date - but to<br>
>>>>>>> essentially<br>
>>>>>>> have the new theme approval rate one a week will do nothing to<br>
>>>>>>> encourage<br>
>>>>>>> authors to submit new themes.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I had good reasons to change from Weaver to Weaver II, and perhaps<br>
>>>>>>> should have requested it be treated as a revision of the existing<br>
>>>>>>> approved<br>
>>>>>>> theme. But I don know if I knew three months ago, that I likely would<br>
>>>>>>> have<br>
>>>>>>> done things differently, including the possibility of simply<br>
>>>>>>> abandoning the<br>
>>>>>>> WP theme repository.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> But Weaver II represents a cutting edge theme/framework that has (or<br>
>>>>>>> had three months ago) really new features, including what I think is<br>
>>>>>>> likely<br>
>>>>>>> the best mobile support of any WP theme. It is really frustrating to<br>
>>>>>>> see it<br>
>>>>>>> languish in the queue.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I just think a almost three month wait is excessive, and will<br>
>>>>>>> seriously<br>
>>>>>>> discourage developers from developing and submitting new themes.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The discussion of new 3.4 features seems almost silly since if the<br>
>>>>>>> new<br>
>>>>>>> queue theme stays at several months, it is likely that there won't be<br>
>>>>>>> any<br>
>>>>>>> new themes.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I believe is really important to keep fresh, new themes with cutting<br>
>>>>>>> edge features coming in for the future health of WordPress.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Just some thoughts. I believe something needs to be done. I'd<br>
>>>>>>> volunteer<br>
>>>>>>> to review some themes, but I have serious ethical concerns about<br>
>>>>>>> that, as<br>
>>>>>>> well as a full work load supporting my theme which has become very<br>
>>>>>>> popular<br>
>>>>>>> on its own while waiting on the queue.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Bruce Wampler<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>>><br>
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>>>>><br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:41:05 +0000<br>
> From: "Rankin, Matthew W. (Student)" <<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>"<br>
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> <<a href="mailto:0A61E76883F4624AAE4D8DF33EB9FF7A09E03756@CH1PRD0102MB148.prod.exchangelabs.com">0A61E76883F4624AAE4D8DF33EB9FF7A09E03756@CH1PRD0102MB148.prod.exchangelabs.com</a>><br>
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> There are many people ( myself included ) who review themes just for the<br>
> satisfaction of helping out WordPress. However, there are many people out<br>
> there who need a little more than that to review themes. Even just a thank<br>
> you and a WordPress badge to post up on their site would go a long way in<br>
> attracting more theme reviewers and getting more production out of less<br>
> active reviewers. The idea is fairly straight forward and easy to implement,<br>
> and has a proven record of success as you can see by looking at many other<br>
> websites around the web who use similar ideas.<br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Simon Prosser<br>
> [<a href="mailto:pross@pross.org.uk">pross@pross.org.uk</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:09 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
><br>
> What incentives? <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a> is a free organization and the theme<br>
> team volunteer the time to review themes in their spare time.<br>
> They all have regular jobs and lives as well.<br>
><br>
> On 27 January 2012 13:41, Chandra Maharzan <<a href="mailto:maharzan@gmail.com">maharzan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I haven't reviewed any themes but I do think this volunteer thing<br>
>> might need to go at some point. Have a dedicated team who reviews<br>
>> themes and they get incentives on each theme or something. Otherwise<br>
>> like a person said above, people are discouraged. I was when I<br>
>> submitted a theme about a year ago and it was reviewed in a long time<br>
>> and the same thing is happening now. And I have 2 themes in the repo,<br>
>> pretty popular ones. I am sure many designers feel like me.<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Phenomenoodle | Taryn Wallis<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:taryn@phenomenoodle.com">taryn@phenomenoodle.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Up until about 5 years ago (when I transitioned into web design<br>
>>> full-time) I<br>
>>> was an Organizational Psychologist - things like badges work well as a<br>
>>> motivational tool for some types of people, and absolutely not for<br>
>>> others.<br>
>>> I'm one of the others :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> If there was a badge, I might consider putting it on my site, but it<br>
>>> would<br>
>>> have zero impact from an incentive point of view. I'm far more internally<br>
>>> motivated, so external things like badges (or certificates etc) have no<br>
>>> real<br>
>>> meaning to me. In terms of theme reviews, I contribute because it allows<br>
>>> me<br>
>>> to give back to the community and to also learn from the experience - if<br>
>>> I'm<br>
>>> not able to do reviews, it's not because of lack of motivation, but<br>
>>> simply a<br>
>>> lack of time :(<br>
>>><br>
>>> ______________________________<br>
>>> Taryn Wallis<br>
>>> Phenomenoodle<br>
>>> WordPress design & development<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.phenomenoodle.com" target="_blank">www.phenomenoodle.com</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Netzberufler<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:netzberufler@googlemail.com">netzberufler@googlemail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I find Badges are a great idea. They should also be included into the<br>
>>>> WordPress Profile Pages. <a href="http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/" target="_blank">http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/</a> or<br>
>>>> <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/" target="_blank">http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/</a> . BTW why are there<br>
>>>> different<br>
>>>> profile pages on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a>?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I currently don't review themes cause of my exams but I will begin<br>
>>>> reviewing again in 2 weeks ;)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2012/1/26 Rankin, Matthew W. (Student) <<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Not directly related to this email thread but seems like a good place<br>
>>>>> to<br>
>>>>> post it. I was thinking about why there aren't more volunteer reviewers<br>
>>>>> and<br>
>>>>> why many are slow to review themes. I think it may be because it lacks<br>
>>>>> incentive. So, I had an idea which may attract more reviewers and<br>
>>>>> increase<br>
>>>>> productivity among current reviewers. My idea is to create a WordPress<br>
>>>>> badge. Theme reviewers can post this badge on their own websites to say<br>
>>>>> that<br>
>>>>> they contribute to WordPress. You could even create different levels of<br>
>>>>> badges so as you review more themes you get higher level badges. It's a<br>
>>>>> simple idea which has proven effective on many websites around the web.<br>
>>>>> What<br>
>>>>> does everyone else think of this idea?<br>
>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Rankin,<br>
>>>>> Matthew<br>
>>>>> W. (Student) [<a href="mailto:mrankin@my.ccsu.edu">mrankin@my.ccsu.edu</a>]<br>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49 PM<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I'll do my best to follow your lead Chip. I've just been so busy lately<br>
>>>>> I<br>
>>>>> haven't had time to do many reviews. But I should be able to fit in one<br>
>>>>> theme a day.<br>
>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> [<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] on behalf of Chip Bennett<br>
>>>>> [<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">chip@chipbennett.net</a>]<br>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:31 PM<br>
>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I don't think a paradigm shift is necessary (or helpful) at this point.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The bottom line is: about 10 tickets per day are submitted. Thus, we<br>
>>>>> need<br>
>>>>> about 10 tickets per day reviewed and closed, in order to keep up with<br>
>>>>> the<br>
>>>>> submission rate. We are approaching 100 people who have reviewed<br>
>>>>> Themes. If<br>
>>>>> every person with ticket privileges reviewed two tickets, we would<br>
>>>>> exhaust<br>
>>>>> the current queue entirely.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I've tried to push in the past to get reviewers to consider committing<br>
>>>>> to<br>
>>>>> a certain minimum level of participation, but as you've noted: it's not<br>
>>>>> practical. We ARE all volunteers, and all have extremely busy<br>
>>>>> schedules. (I<br>
>>>>> last saw a "40-hour work week" sometime last summer.) Efforts to get<br>
>>>>> such<br>
>>>>> commitments inevitably have the opposite effect, as IMX they have only<br>
>>>>> driven volunteers AWAY from contributing their time.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> That said: I'll do my best to lead by example. I will commit to<br>
>>>>> reviewing<br>
>>>>> one Theme per day, every day.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Chip<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Edward Caissie<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Although it shouldn't need to be written, but once again it appears a<br>
>>>>>> reminder appears to be needed ...<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, every member of the current Theme Review<br>
>>>>>> Team is a volunteer. Every member also has a "full work load" with<br>
>>>>>> many<br>
>>>>>> simply unable to devote any time to this volunteer activity during<br>
>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>>> scheduled time. Many of the volunteers have other additional WordPress<br>
>>>>>> related activities that add to their typical "40-hour week" work load.<br>
>>>>>> We<br>
>>>>>> all have lives, too ... so, quite simply, we give what time we can and<br>
>>>>>> look<br>
>>>>>> to the community to contribute some of their time. Wait times, as<br>
>>>>>> noted many<br>
>>>>>> times, are inversely proportional to the amount of volunteer reviewers<br>
>>>>>> available to do the work.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> We can appreciate the wait time is long and frustrating. This is not<br>
>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>> only time this topic has been discussed, these are not the only ideas<br>
>>>>>> that<br>
>>>>>> have been considered. Unfortunately until their is perhaps a paradigm<br>
>>>>>> shift<br>
>>>>>> in regards to the WPTRT we may simply be forced to continue to endure<br>
>>>>>> and<br>
>>>>>> forge ahead under these conditions.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Cais.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bruce Wampler<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:weavertheme@gmail.com">weavertheme@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I would like to add my perspective on the review process.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I have been submitting one theme - with revisions and slight name<br>
>>>>>>> modifications - for almost two years now - starting with 2010 Weaver,<br>
>>>>>>> changed to simply Weaver, and now Weaver II.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Because Weaver II is a name change, and represents a total rewrite of<br>
>>>>>>> Weaver, it has been in the Priority Queue for almost 3 months now.<br>
>>>>>>> I've just<br>
>>>>>>> been sitting here waiting my turn.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> But seriously - three months for new themes? The past week, the<br>
>>>>>>> review<br>
>>>>>>> rate has been only one new theme reviewed.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> It is important to keep existing themes up to date - but to<br>
>>>>>>> essentially<br>
>>>>>>> have the new theme approval rate one a week will do nothing to<br>
>>>>>>> encourage<br>
>>>>>>> authors to submit new themes.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I had good reasons to change from Weaver to Weaver II, and perhaps<br>
>>>>>>> should have requested it be treated as a revision of the existing<br>
>>>>>>> approved<br>
>>>>>>> theme. But I don know if I knew three months ago, that I likely would<br>
>>>>>>> have<br>
>>>>>>> done things differently, including the possibility of simply<br>
>>>>>>> abandoning the<br>
>>>>>>> WP theme repository.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> But Weaver II represents a cutting edge theme/framework that has (or<br>
>>>>>>> had three months ago) really new features, including what I think is<br>
>>>>>>> likely<br>
>>>>>>> the best mobile support of any WP theme. It is really frustrating to<br>
>>>>>>> see it<br>
>>>>>>> languish in the queue.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I just think a almost three month wait is excessive, and will<br>
>>>>>>> seriously<br>
>>>>>>> discourage developers from developing and submitting new themes.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The discussion of new 3.4 features seems almost silly since if the<br>
>>>>>>> new<br>
>>>>>>> queue theme stays at several months, it is likely that there won't be<br>
>>>>>>> any<br>
>>>>>>> new themes.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I believe is really important to keep fresh, new themes with cutting<br>
>>>>>>> edge features coming in for the future health of WordPress.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Just some thoughts. I believe something needs to be done. I'd<br>
>>>>>>> volunteer<br>
>>>>>>> to review some themes, but I have serious ethical concerns about<br>
>>>>>>> that, as<br>
>>>>>>> well as a full work load supporting my theme which has become very<br>
>>>>>>> popular<br>
>>>>>>> on its own while waiting on the queue.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Bruce Wampler<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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