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    Just interested, where the discussion on this matter will take
    place? As a theme developer I'd like to express my opinion.<br>
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    On 29.05.2011 23:52, Diana K. Cury wrote:
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      <div><font face="Tahoma" size="2">Thanks for reply,</font></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><font face="Tahoma" size="2">I'm aware about plugin being
          better than theme, so users don't get theme dependent, but I
          though that plugins should handle very specific or advanced
          tasks, not content, I mean...post types is all about content
          isn't?! </font></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><font face="Tahoma" size="2">Thought that a subject/content
          driven theme could ok, since there are seasonal themes in
          repository.</font></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><font face="Tahoma" size="2">I don't mind extract it to a
          plugin, I'm just&nbsp;upset about spent time on a theme instead a
          plugin because no one said that before.</font></div>
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      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>----- Original Message ----- </div>
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          228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b> <a
            moz-do-not-send="true" title="chip@chipbennett.net"
            href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
        <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
            href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
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        <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2011
          5:22 PM</div>
        <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
          [theme-reviewers] Help on theme review - Did I waste my time?</div>
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        Of course I can disagree. My opinion is my own, and only I
        inform my own opinion.&nbsp;I claim no "authoritarian" viewpoint; I
        was merely clarifying a question from a ticket review.
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          <div>We're right now in the process of thinking out handling
            of specialized Themes. It was the major topic of yesterday's
            meeting. It will be posted as a discussion topic on the Make
            site. Nothing is set in stone. Further, nobody has said
            anything about removing the possibility of specialized
            Themes in the Repository.&nbsp;Part of that implementation is
            going to be outside of the control of the Theme Review Team
            (see also: Child Themes), and I am 100% in favor of finding
            all possible means of supporting specialty/niche Themes. The
            vast untapped potential of WordPress lies in such Themes.</div>
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          </div>
          <div>But I will continue to argue the principle of separation
            of content *creation* and content *presentation*, and the
            principle of user content not being locked-in to any
            particular Theme.</div>
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          <div>Chip</div>
          <div><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:00 PM,
              Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:philip@frumph.net">philip@frumph.net</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Unfortunately I
                      disagree that you "can" disagree.&nbsp; This is not a
                      position that you have authoritarian viewpoint
                      over.&nbsp; The "stance" that the theme review team
                      will remove any possibility of 'specialized'
                      themes on the repository including mine, as well
                      as any future themes that are contain as such; not
                      withholding themes like the one that was on the
                      repo for awhile that handled 'trouble tickets' if
                      you remember that one.</font></div>
                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
                  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Again, you are
                      limiting the repository again and this needs to be
                      rethought out a bit more.</font></div>
                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                      <div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original
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                      <div style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0%
                        rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          title="chip@chipbennett.net"
                          href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
                          target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
                      <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
                          href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
                          target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
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                        <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b>
                          Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:55 PM</div>
                        <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b>
                          Re: [theme-reviewers] Help on theme review -
                          Did I waste my time?</div>
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                        I disagree.&nbsp;
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                        <div>There needs to be some assurance that the
                          Plugin will be maintained for as long as the
                          Theme is maintained, otherwise, the Plugin
                          will simply be a release-one-and-forget
                          affair. Requiring the Theme to *use* the
                          Plugin, rather than incorporate the
                          functionality, ensures that users will have a
                          maintained Plugin, and will retain use/control
                          of their data, without being locked in to any
                          particular Theme.</div>
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                        </div>
                        <div>Chip<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29, 2011
                            at 2:47 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span
                              dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
                                target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                <div><font face="Arial" size="2">A
                                    plugin is just an extension of the
                                    theme to allow for usage in
                                    multi-variety themes, while content
                                    creation that is specific for an
                                    individual theme should be allowed.</font></div>
                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                                      <div style="font: 10pt arial;">-----
                                        Original Message ----- </div>
                                      <div style="background: none
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                                        228, 228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          title="chip@chipbennett.net"
                                          href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
                                          target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a>
                                      </div>
                                      <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
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                                      <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b>
                                        Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:42 PM</div>
                                      <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b>
                                        Re: [theme-reviewers] Help on
                                        theme review - Did I waste my
                                        time?</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      The reason for that review comment
                                      is that it is the current stance
                                      of the Theme Review Team that
                                      Theme functionality should involve
                                      *presentation* of data only, and
                                      that *creation* of content should
                                      be handled by Plugins. User data
                                      should not be subject to Theme
                                      "lock-in", but should be available
                                      to the user, regardless of what
                                      Theme is used.
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>The Repository/WordPress are
                                        not yet well-suited to handle
                                        "niche" Themes - though we
                                        certainly hope that both will
                                        better-accommodate such Themes
                                        in the future, given the vast
                                        potential of such Themes.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>As a compromise, we are
                                        currently asking that any Theme
                                        that *creates* data (such as via
                                        a Custom Post Type) port that
                                        functionality to a Plugin
                                        (approved and available in the
                                        Plugin Repository), and
                                        use/integrate the Plugin
                                        functionality. This way, if the
                                        user switches Themes, his data
                                        are still available, since such
                                        data will be handled by the
                                        Plugin.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>(Note: this requirement means
                                        that the Theme should actually
                                        be *dependent* upon the Plugin,
                                        rather than making the Plugin
                                        itself part of the Theme. It
                                        ensures that the Plugin
                                        functionality is kept current
                                        with Theme development, so that
                                        users retain access to/control
                                        of their content for as long as
                                        the developer maintains the
                                        Theme - and therefore, the
                                        Plugin.)</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>In the case of your Theme,
                                        porting the CPT functionality to
                                        a Plugin shouldn't be more than
                                        a 5-minute (or so) process.
                                        Then, you'll just need to ensure
                                        that the Theme checks for the
                                        Plugin being active and/or the
                                        CPT being available.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Chip<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun,
                                          May 29, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Diana
                                          K. Cury <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:dianakac@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">dianakac@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                <div><font face="Tahoma"
                                                    size="2">Please,
                                                    someone could
                                                    clarify </font><a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><font
                                                      face="Tahoma"
                                                      size="2">http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/4032</font></a></div>
                                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                <div><font face="Tahoma"
                                                    size="2">I'm not
                                                    undertanding this:</font></div>
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                                                    <div><em><font
                                                          face="Tahoma"
                                                          size="2">Even
                                                          though there
                                                          are a few
                                                          changes to be
                                                          made I cannot
                                                          approve this
                                                          theme because
                                                          of the
                                                          implementation
                                                          of custom post
                                                          types which is
                                                          required to be
                                                          implemented as
                                                          a plugin.
                                                          (...)</font></em></div>
                                                    <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                                                  style="margin-right:
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                                                    face="Tahoma"
                                                    size="2">Where, who
                                                    said that post types
                                                    should be
                                                    implemented only as
                                                    a plugin, if so, why
                                                    anyone said me tha
                                                    before I re-submit
                                                    the theme ten
                                                    times?&nbsp;</font></div>
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                                                  style="margin-right:
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                                                    face="Tahoma"
                                                    size="2">Also, that
                                                    stands for a built
                                                    in plugin or a
                                                    standalone one
                                                    (submit as a plugin
                                                    in Plugin
                                                    Directory)?</font></div>
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                                                    face="Tahoma"
                                                    size="2">Thanks,</font></div>
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