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The reason my themes have a message is because I opened a discussion
on my forums and had real theme users make the decision. I have a
lot of opinionated users too. :) I wouldn't consider that rare or a
special use case. This was about a three-month discussion.<br>
<br>
Also, there are several scenarios for this type of thing:<br>
<br>
* No comments, comments closed, pings closed.<br>
* No comments, comments closed, pings open.<br>
* No comments, comments open, pings closed.<br>
* Has comments, comments closed, pings closed.<br>
* Has comments, comments closed, pings open.<br>
* Has comments, comments open, pings closed.<br>
<br>
I have these for posts and pages in my personal test data. I don't
think we have all of them in the theme unit test data. <br>
<br>
Having a catchall requirement (based on our opinions) doesn't really
cut it. A theme developer has a lot of options just based on that
list of how to handle comments. Many people are going to look at it
a different way and have their own opinion about the best method of
handling comments.<br>
<br>
There are some things I believe we should just leave up to the theme
developer (this being one of those things). Granted, 90% of the
themes that come rolling through don't seem to have a lot of thought
put behind them.<br>
<br>
On 3/1/2011 7:56 PM, Edward Caissie wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTin=JkS__QBTAnZeJ-i-ODbPA1j9GdBgkxWO0aOV@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">The no "comments are closed" message is a legacy item
that may need to be reviewed. Although I agree with its current
implementation regarding pages I would be open to a compelling
argument to allow for special use cases; but, again, the Theme
repository is not a destination for rare use-case themes but one
for themes that are designed to meet a great many users needs and
wants and essentially a more or less generic use-case fashion.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cais.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Justin
Tadlock <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com">justin@justintadlock.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Actually, I would argue
that this message should be displayed if pings are open:<br>
<br>
"Comments are closed but trackbacks and pingbacks are open."<br>
<br>
I would never say a theme couldn't have that. Even my
themes show a message similar to that. And, this was a
decision made by my theme users, not me.<br>
<br>
Personally, I don't even check for a "comments are closed"
message at all in my reviews. I consider that a theme
developer's choice, even if I don't like the message sitting
there on pages.
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On 3/1/2011 4:49 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Correct. Pages shouldn't display
any sort of notice regarding comments, if comments are
closed. Primarily, this is to facilitate Page-based
sites that use WordPress, for which references to
comments on Pages would be undesirable.
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<div>Chip<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:47
PM, Daniel Tara <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:contact@onedesigns.com"
target="_blank">contact@onedesigns.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">None.
Static pages must not display any
notices when comments are closed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Daniel</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Ambartsumov<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 02, 2011
12:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [theme-reviewers]
Comments are closed on pages</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">which of the
following can be displayed on pages
with closed comments:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Responses
are currently closed, but you
can trackback from your own
site.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Comments are
closed.</p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I belive 2nd
one cant be displayed, but first
one?</p>
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