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    The reason my themes have a message is because I opened a discussion
    on my forums and had real theme users make the decision.&nbsp; I have a
    lot of opinionated users too. :)&nbsp; I wouldn't consider that rare or a
    special use case.&nbsp; This was about a three-month discussion.<br>
    <br>
    Also, there are several scenarios for this type of thing:<br>
    <br>
    * No comments, comments closed, pings closed.<br>
    * No comments, comments closed, pings open.<br>
    * No comments, comments open, pings closed.<br>
    * Has comments, comments closed, pings closed.<br>
    * Has comments, comments closed, pings open.<br>
    * Has comments, comments open, pings closed.<br>
    <br>
    I have these for posts and pages in my personal test data.&nbsp; I don't
    think we have all of them in the theme unit test data.&nbsp; <br>
    <br>
    Having a catchall requirement (based on our opinions) doesn't really
    cut it.&nbsp; A theme developer has a lot of options just based on that
    list of how to handle comments.&nbsp; Many people are going to look at it
    a different way and have their own opinion about the best method of
    handling comments.<br>
    <br>
    There are some things I believe we should just leave up to the theme
    developer (this being one of those things).&nbsp; Granted, 90% of the
    themes that come rolling through don't seem to have a lot of thought
    put behind them.<br>
    <br>
    On 3/1/2011 7:56 PM, Edward Caissie wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTin=JkS__QBTAnZeJ-i-ODbPA1j9GdBgkxWO0aOV@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">The no "comments are closed" message is a legacy item
      that may need to be reviewed. Although I agree with its current
      implementation regarding pages I would be open to a compelling
      argument to allow for special use cases; but, again, the Theme
      repository is not a destination for rare use-case themes but one
      for themes that are designed to meet a great many users needs and
      wants and essentially a more or less generic use-case fashion.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Cais.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Justin
        Tadlock <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:justin@justintadlock.com">justin@justintadlock.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Actually, I would argue
            that this message should be displayed if pings are open:<br>
            <br>
            "Comments are closed but trackbacks and pingbacks are open."<br>
            <br>
            I would never say a theme couldn't have that.&nbsp; Even my
            themes show a message similar to that.&nbsp; And, this was a
            decision made by my theme users, not me.<br>
            <br>
            Personally, I don't even check for a "comments are closed"
            message at all in my reviews.&nbsp; I consider that a theme
            developer's choice, even if I don't like the message sitting
            there on pages.
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              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                On 3/1/2011 4:49 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:
                <blockquote type="cite">Correct. Pages shouldn't display
                  any sort of notice regarding comments, if comments are
                  closed. Primarily, this is to facilitate Page-based
                  sites that use WordPress, for which references to
                  comments on Pages would be undesirable.
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                  <div>Chip<br>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:47
                      PM, Daniel Tara <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:contact@onedesigns.com"
                          target="_blank">contact@onedesigns.com</a>&gt;</span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">None.
                                Static pages must not display any
                                notices when comments are closed.</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <span
                                style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31,
                                73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Daniel</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
                                  target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>
                                [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
                                  target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>]
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Ambartsumov<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 02, 2011
                                12:45 AM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
                                  target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> [theme-reviewers]
                                Comments are closed on pages</span></p>
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                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal">which of the
                                    following can be displayed on pages
                                    with closed comments:</p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> Responses
                                        are currently closed, but you
                                        can trackback from your own
                                        site.</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Comments are
                                        closed.</p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">I belive 2nd
                                      one cant be displayed, but first
                                      one?</p>
                                  </div>
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