<div><i>(Note - I guess you forgot to CC theme-reviewers mailing list!)</i></div><div><br></div><meta charset="utf-8">@Syahir<div>I 100% agree with your reasoning.</div><div>Personally, I always appreciate anyone who is bothered about performance of their code! :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>But I have altogether a different counter-argument here.</div><div>A novice user with less traffic will have very less load on his server to bother about minification.</div><div>The day he will bother about performance <i>(may be after first downtime) </i>he will use Google first (in most cases)</div>
<div>Google will guide him to articles which will help him use wp-super-cache/w3-total-cache like plugin!</div><div><br></div><div>They must use plugin because even if you minify your CSS, other plugins extra CSS file will continue to degrade performance.</div>
<div><div><br></div><div>On sidenote, if server is configured properly, CSS/JS files can be forced to have very far expiry header.</div><div><br></div><div><i><b>Off-Off-topic</b></i> - Anyone who is hungry for performance should care to look into Nginx! Moving from Apache to Nginx can alone boost performance extremely.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Syahir Hakim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:khairulsyahir@gmail.com">khairulsyahir@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Well, because a huge percentage
of theme users are not even aware of such thing as minification?<br>
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I know it's easy enough for us developers, but not so for novice
WordPress end users.<br>
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Syahir Hakim
Contact:
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On 18/2/2011 10:58 PM, Rahul Bansal wrote:
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<span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Yep, that's
the kind of minified css I was referring to. One single
(looong) line for the entire CSS file, with no spaces at all
except in the shorthand values.</span></blockquote>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">w3
total cache and I guess few more plugin can produce such
files automatically for you.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">also
they will combine multiple CSS files (including CSS files
from plugins like cformsII) into one single "minified" file.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Why
to waste time & efforts into something which plugins are
already doing nicely!</span></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Syahir
Hakim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:khairulsyahir@gmail.com" target="_blank">khairulsyahir@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Yep, that's the kind of minified css I was referring to. One
single (looong) line for the entire CSS file, with no spaces
at all except in the shorthand values.
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Regards,<br>
Syahir Hakim<br>
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Contact:<br>
<a href="http://www.khairul-syahir.com" target="_blank">http://www.khairul-syahir.com</a><br>
+6014 753 1883<br>
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On 18/2/2011 10:48 PM, Austin Matzko wrote:<br>
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Chip Bennett<<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
We're talking about removing whitespace, not
obfuscating (e.g.<br>
base64-encoding) code. Removing whitespace is NOT
"obfuscation". That<br>
suggestion is ludicrous.<br>
Let us be quite clear on what we're discussing here.<br>
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And this is the "minified" version of that same CSS:<br>
<br>
#selector-1, #selector-2, #selector-3 { background:
#fff; color: #000; }<br>
<br>
Both are equally valid under the GPL. There is no
GPL-compliance issue here,<br>
period.<br>
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If Syahir's CSS includes only one rule like that, then
you could have<br>
a point because it really could be the "preferred form
of the work for<br>
making modifications to it." However, what we're really
talking about<br>
is something that looks like this:<br>
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<<a href="http://core.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-admin/css/wp-admin.css" target="_blank">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-admin/css/wp-admin.css</a>><br>
<br>
Chip, are you honestly claiming you prefer to edit CSS
in that form?<br>
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