Hmm ...<br><br>If a WPTRT member is recommending a Theme be suspended they should also be drafting the message to the author with their reasons why. If they are unable to find an appropriate contact point then obviously punt it over to Pross or myself as we can easily get the author's email from Extend to forward the "draft" to the author.<br>
<br><br>Cais.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">This email was never sent out =(</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Discussed the situation with Payday Designs author
on the <a href="http://make.wordpress.org/themes" target="_blank">make.wordpress.org/themes</a> post and apologized profusely for the error and
explained the reasoning.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">- Phil</font></div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div class="im">
<div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="edward.caissie@gmail.com" href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">Edward Caissie</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
</div>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:04
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion</div>
<div><br></div>Theme has been suspended ... the author should be advised as
noted throughout this thread.<br><br>Author email: paydaydesigns [at] gmail
...<br><br>I can do it, unless someone else wants to write something
specific.<br><br><br>Cais.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">hey, me neither - read my first 100 heh..
</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">but yeah this should be suspended</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
<div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a> </div></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 19, 2011
9:29 AM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion</div>
<div><br></div>No worries. I'm not immune to faulty reviews (eh, Phil? ;)
). This one probably makes a good case study for handling of derivative
Themes.
<div><br></div>
<div>Chip<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div>I wasn't aware that it was you :( </div>
<div>Yeah, there's no difference in line code at all. This is indeed
TwentyTen.</div>
<div>
<div><br clear="all"> </div>
<div><font size="1"><b>Emil Uzelac</b> | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 |
Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/emiluzelac" target="_blank">@EmilUzelac</a> | E: </font><a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">emil@themeid.com</font></a><font size="1"> | </font><a href="http://themeid.com/" target="_blank"><font size="1">http://themeid.com</font></a></div>
<div><font size="1"><font color="#666666"><i>Make everything as simple as
possible, but not simpler.</i> - Albert
Einstein</font></font></div><br><br><br></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Chip Bennett
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">That one was one I reviewed/approved; <i>mea
culpa</i>.
<div><br></div>
<div>Looks like I didn't do a full review on that one. (Looks like it
was from about two months ago. Since then, I've started looking more
carefully at textdomain, and substantial differences for
TwentyTen-derived Themes.)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Chalk it up to a bad review: Bad Chip! :)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'd be fine with suspending, and asking for a revision, to
address deficiencies.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font color="#888888">Chip</font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Emil Uzelac
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div>Let's drop the link building for a moment and look into the
same author shall we?</div>
<div>All right this <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green" target="_blank">http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green</a> is
approved and the entire code is from TwentyTen, every single like,
it even says TwentyTen directly in files. How can that
be?</div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div><br clear="all"> </div>
<div><font size="1"><b>Emil Uzelac</b> | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 |
Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/emiluzelac" target="_blank">@EmilUzelac</a> | E: </font><a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">emil@themeid.com</font></a><font size="1"> | </font><a href="http://themeid.com/" target="_blank"><font size="1">http://themeid.com</font></a></div>
<div><font size="1"><font color="#666666"><i>Make everything as simple
as possible, but not simpler.</i> - Albert
Einstein</font></font></div><br><br><br></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chip
Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">The standard is "<b>significantly different
design and/or functionality</b>". Granted, it's entirely
subjective, but we *are* taking into consideration.
<div><br></div>
<div>I don't know how to draw the line any more clearly than that,
when the reality is that a non-trivial number of submitted Themes
will *always* be derived from the WordPress default Theme - which
right now is TwentyTen.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thus, it is rather infeasible to disallow *any*
TwentyTen-derived Themes.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font color="#888888">Chip</font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Otto
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com" target="_blank">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Are we actually allowing basic modifications
to the twentyten theme to<br>go into the directory?<br><br>Can't
we say that themes must be at least somewhat *original*?
Simply<br>replacing the<br>artwork and screwing around with the
CSS of an existing theme does not<br>a new theme
create.<br><br>Just a thought.<br><font color="#888888"><br>-Otto<br></font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br><br>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Tara
<<a href="mailto:contact@onedesigns.com" target="_blank">contact@onedesigns.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
Twenty Ten has that hook and that theme copies plenty of code
from it. I<br>> think it’s residual waste from wannabe coders
that don’t actually understand<br>> what they’re
doing.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Daniel<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Philip M.<br>> Hofer (Frumph)<br>> Sent:
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:43 PM<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> I'm thinking there's
some plugin out there that's doing it, since plugin's<br>>
are not .. moderated, they can do anything of the
like.<br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>><br>> From: Chip Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:39 AM<br>><br>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> I've seen quite a few
Themes that have such a "do_action( 'my_theme_credits'<br>>
)" in footer.php, but without a corresponding add_action() hook
in<br>> functions.php.<br>><br>><br>><br>> I've
always taken it to be sloppiness in copying from another Theme,
adding<br>> in a hook but not knowing to define it. Is it
something else?<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Chip<br>><br>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Philip M.
Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>
.. is there an action that hooks into it in the theme or is he
hooking in<br>> someplace else like a
plugin?<br>><br>><br>><br>> <?php do_action(
'all_green_credits' ); ?><br>><br>> ----- Original
Message -----<br>><br>> From: Daniel Tara<br>><br>>
To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:55 AM<br>><br>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> If you don’t mean that
he is building links via the 'all_green_credits'<br>> hook,
then I don’t get it either.<br>><br>> Anyway, there’s no
function hooked to that action in any theme
file.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Daniel<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Chip<br>> Bennett<br>> Sent: Wednesday,
January 19, 2011 3:40 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> So for the
not-enough-sleep-and-no-coffee-yet version: what am I looking
at,<br>> in the footer.php that you linked?
:)<br>><br>><br>><br>> Chip<br>><br>> On Wed,
Jan 19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Emil Uzelac <<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>
This would be no go, the guy is building links via theme and
that's not<br>> cool. Please see Google cache on this <a href="http://is.gd/TSWfvV" target="_blank">http://is.gd/TSWfvV</a><br>><br>><br>><br>>
Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac |
E:<br>> <a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a> | <a href="http://themeid.com/" target="_blank">http://themeid.com</a><br>><br>> Make
everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert
Einstein<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
11:13 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>
heh well thats not far from what it looks like in firefox too,
that text on<br>> the image looks
horrible<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> -----
Original Message -----<br>><br>> From: Chip
Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:55 AM<br>><br>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> Follow
up:<br>><br>><br>><br>> Firefox: renders
fine<br>><br>> Chrome: does not render
properly<br>><br>> IE8: does not render
properly<br>><br>><br>><br>> By "does not render
properly", here's what I'm
seeing.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Chip<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
10:37 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>
i'm sorry, i'm confused as to why it's not rendering to
you?<br>><br>><br>><br>> think its a browser issue
or connection to the
site?<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> -----
Original Message -----<br>><br>> From: Chip
Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:05 AM<br>><br>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> Can you and Phil post
screencaps on the ticket? I'll reinstall the Theme and<br>>
do the same.<br>><br>><br>><br>> (Or, if it's not
the author's original work, maybe we just deny it on
those<br>> grounds?)<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Chip<br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Edward
Caissie <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>><br>>
wrote:<br>><br>> IT rendered fine but like Phil pointed
out, there are some obvious items to<br>> look at
...<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
11:00 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>
yes yes and yes, renders fine
sorta..<br>><br>><br>><br>> last post from from last
october, the 404 page renders like
crap<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> The real
template author for this is <a href="http://www.bloggerthemes.net/" target="_blank">http://www.bloggerthemes.net/</a><br>><br>><br>><br>>
as shown here<br>><br>><br>><br>> <a href="http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#" target="_blank">http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#</a><br>
><br>><br>><br>>
(notice the <a href="http://paydaydesigns.info/" target="_blank">paydaydesigns.info</a> on that
page)<br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>><br>> From: Chip Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:47 AM<br>><br>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> Can you read any of the
content?<br>><br>> Does it look like
screenshot.png?<br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM,
Edward Caissie <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>><br>>
wrote:<br>><br>> IT seems to load fine for me ... haven't
tested it or anything. What issues<br>> are you
having?<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
10:40 AM, Jay <<a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank">furcifer@furcifer.me</a>>
wrote:<br>><br>> Hey chip.<br>><br>> Just taking a
quick look from my phone, it's the same theme that's on
the<br>> author url, and i'm having issues with
that.<br>><br>> Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>
wrote:<br>><br>>>Hey All,<br>>><br>>>I
could not get this Theme<br>><br>>><<a href="https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655" target="_blank">https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655</a>>to
render properly for<br>><br>>>me. Can someone else
confirm that it is the Theme,<br>>>and not something with
my test
environment?<br>>><br>>>Thanks!<br>>><br>>>Chip<br>>><br>><br>>>_______________________________________________<br>>>theme-reviewers
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