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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This email was never sent out =(</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Discussed the situation with Payday Designs author
on the make.wordpress.org/themes post and apologized profusely for the error and
explained the reasoning.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>- Phil</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edward.caissie@gmail.com
href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">Edward Caissie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Theme has been suspended ... the author should be advised as
noted throughout this thread.<BR><BR>Author email: paydaydesigns [at] gmail
...<BR><BR>I can do it, unless someone else wants to write something
specific.<BR><BR><BR>Cais.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net">philip@frumph.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>hey, me neither - read my first 100 heh..
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>but yeah this should be suspended</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228)"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chip@chipbennett.net href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
target=_blank>Chip Bennett</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 19, 2011
9:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>No worries. I'm not immune to faulty reviews (eh, Phil? ;)
). This one probably makes a good case study for handling of derivative
Themes.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Chip<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Emil Uzelac <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:emil@themeid.com"
target=_blank>emil@themeid.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I wasn't aware that it was you :( </DIV>
<DIV>Yeah, there's no difference in line code at all. This is indeed
TwentyTen.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR clear=all> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><B>Emil Uzelac</B> | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 |
Twitter: <A href="http://twitter.com/emiluzelac"
target=_blank>@EmilUzelac</A> | E: </FONT><A
href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target=_blank><FONT
size=1>emil@themeid.com</FONT></A><FONT size=1> | </FONT><A
href="http://themeid.com/" target=_blank><FONT
size=1>http://themeid.com</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><FONT color=#666666><I>Make everything as simple as
possible, but not simpler.</I> - Albert
Einstein</FONT></FONT></DIV><BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Chip Bennett
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
target=_blank>chip@chipbennett.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>That one was one I reviewed/approved; <I>mea
culpa</I>.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Looks like I didn't do a full review on that one. (Looks like it
was from about two months ago. Since then, I've started looking more
carefully at textdomain, and substantial differences for
TwentyTen-derived Themes.)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Chalk it up to a bad review: Bad Chip! :)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'd be fine with suspending, and asking for a revision, to
address deficiencies.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#888888>Chip</FONT>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Emil Uzelac
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:emil@themeid.com"
target=_blank>emil@themeid.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Let's drop the link building for a moment and look into the
same author shall we?</DIV>
<DIV>All right this <A
href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green"
target=_blank>http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green</A> is
approved and the entire code is from TwentyTen, every single like,
it even says TwentyTen directly in files. How can that
be?</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=all> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><B>Emil Uzelac</B> | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 |
Twitter: <A href="http://twitter.com/emiluzelac"
target=_blank>@EmilUzelac</A> | E: </FONT><A
href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target=_blank><FONT
size=1>emil@themeid.com</FONT></A><FONT size=1> | </FONT><A
href="http://themeid.com/" target=_blank><FONT
size=1>http://themeid.com</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=1><FONT color=#666666><I>Make everything as simple
as possible, but not simpler.</I> - Albert
Einstein</FONT></FONT></DIV><BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chip
Bennett <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
target=_blank>chip@chipbennett.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>The standard is "<B>significantly different
design and/or functionality</B>". Granted, it's entirely
subjective, but we *are* taking into consideration.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I don't know how to draw the line any more clearly than that,
when the reality is that a non-trivial number of submitted Themes
will *always* be derived from the WordPress default Theme - which
right now is TwentyTen.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thus, it is rather infeasible to disallow *any*
TwentyTen-derived Themes.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#888888>Chip</FONT>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Otto
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com"
target=_blank>otto@ottodestruct.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Are we actually allowing basic modifications
to the twentyten theme to<BR>go into the directory?<BR><BR>Can't
we say that themes must be at least somewhat *original*?
Simply<BR>replacing the<BR>artwork and screwing around with the
CSS of an existing theme does not<BR>a new theme
create.<BR><BR>Just a thought.<BR><FONT
color=#888888><BR>-Otto<BR></FONT>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><BR>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Tara
<<A href="mailto:contact@onedesigns.com"
target=_blank>contact@onedesigns.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
Twenty Ten has that hook and that theme copies plenty of code
from it. I<BR>> think it’s residual waste from wannabe coders
that don’t actually understand<BR>> what they’re
doing.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Daniel<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Philip M.<BR>> Hofer (Frumph)<BR>> Sent:
Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:43 PM<BR>><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> I'm thinking there's
some plugin out there that's doing it, since plugin's<BR>>
are not .. moderated, they can do anything of the
like.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>><BR>> From: Chip Bennett<BR>><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>><BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:39 AM<BR>><BR>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> I've seen quite a few
Themes that have such a "do_action( 'my_theme_credits'<BR>>
)" in footer.php, but without a corresponding add_action() hook
in<BR>> functions.php.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> I've
always taken it to be sloppiness in copying from another Theme,
adding<BR>> in a hook but not knowing to define it. Is it
something else?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Chip<BR>><BR>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Philip M.
Hofer (Frumph)<BR>> <<A href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
.. is there an action that hooks into it in the theme or is he
hooking in<BR>> someplace else like a
plugin?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> <?php do_action(
'all_green_credits' ); ?><BR>><BR>> ----- Original
Message -----<BR>><BR>> From: Daniel Tara<BR>><BR>>
To: <A href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>><BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:55 AM<BR>><BR>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> If you don’t mean that
he is building links via the 'all_green_credits'<BR>> hook,
then I don’t get it either.<BR>><BR>> Anyway, there’s no
function hooked to that action in any theme
file.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Daniel<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Chip<BR>> Bennett<BR>> Sent: Wednesday,
January 19, 2011 3:40 PM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> So for the
not-enough-sleep-and-no-coffee-yet version: what am I looking
at,<BR>> in the footer.php that you linked?
:)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Chip<BR>><BR>> On Wed,
Jan 19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Emil Uzelac <<A
href="mailto:emil@themeid.com"
target=_blank>emil@themeid.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
This would be no go, the guy is building links via theme and
that's not<BR>> cool. Please see Google cache on this <A
href="http://is.gd/TSWfvV"
target=_blank>http://is.gd/TSWfvV</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac |
E:<BR>> <A href="mailto:emil@themeid.com"
target=_blank>emil@themeid.com</A> | <A
href="http://themeid.com/"
target=_blank>http://themeid.com</A><BR>><BR>> Make
everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert
Einstein<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
11:13 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
heh well thats not far from what it looks like in firefox too,
that text on<BR>> the image looks
horrible<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>><BR>> From: Chip
Bennett<BR>><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>><BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:55 AM<BR>><BR>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Follow
up:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Firefox: renders
fine<BR>><BR>> Chrome: does not render
properly<BR>><BR>> IE8: does not render
properly<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> By "does not render
properly", here's what I'm
seeing.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Chip<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
10:37 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
i'm sorry, i'm confused as to why it's not rendering to
you?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> think its a browser issue
or connection to the
site?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>><BR>> From: Chip
Bennett<BR>><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>><BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:05 AM<BR>><BR>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Can you and Phil post
screencaps on the ticket? I'll reinstall the Theme and<BR>>
do the same.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> (Or, if it's not
the author's original work, maybe we just deny it on
those<BR>> grounds?)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Chip<BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Edward
Caissie <<A href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com"
target=_blank>edward.caissie@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> IT rendered fine but like Phil pointed
out, there are some obvious items to<BR>> look at
...<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
11:00 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:philip@frumph.net"
target=_blank>philip@frumph.net</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
yes yes and yes, renders fine
sorta..<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> last post from from last
october, the 404 page renders like
crap<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> The real
template author for this is <A
href="http://www.bloggerthemes.net/"
target=_blank>http://www.bloggerthemes.net/</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
as shown here<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#"
target=_blank>http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
(notice the <A href="http://paydaydesigns.info/"
target=_blank>paydaydesigns.info</A> on that
page)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>><BR>> From: Chip Bennett<BR>><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org"
target=_blank>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</A><BR>><BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:47 AM<BR>><BR>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Can you read any of the
content?<BR>><BR>> Does it look like
screenshot.png?<BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM,
Edward Caissie <<A href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com"
target=_blank>edward.caissie@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> IT seems to load fine for me ... haven't
tested it or anything. What issues<BR>> are you
having?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
10:40 AM, Jay <<A href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me"
target=_blank>furcifer@furcifer.me</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> Hey chip.<BR>><BR>> Just taking a
quick look from my phone, it's the same theme that's on
the<BR>> author url, and i'm having issues with
that.<BR>><BR>> Chip Bennett <<A
href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net"
target=_blank>chip@chipbennett.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>>Hey All,<BR>>><BR>>>I
could not get this Theme<BR>><BR>>><<A
href="https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655"
target=_blank>https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655</A>>to
render properly for<BR>><BR>>>me. Can someone else
confirm that it is the Theme,<BR>>>and not something with
my test
environment?<BR>>><BR>>>Thanks!<BR>>><BR>>>Chip<BR>>><BR>><BR>>>_______________________________________________<BR>>>theme-reviewers
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