<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
And perhaps we need more explicit guidelines on "substantial difference" with respect to design?</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; " class="gmail_quote">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Not that I have any *clue* what those explicit guidelines might be, mind you.</span></font></blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
But as bad as all-green is, it passes a cursory "does this *look* like TwentyTen?" visual check. Maybe that's not enough?</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
Chip</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Hey Team,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm confused as crap on this topic. This is a decent looking theme in my opinion. With the exception of SEO links, why would a theme like this get suspended? You say it's too TwentyTen-like. Can someone elaborate so I can be on the same page as everyone else? ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Keep in mind that I never got to see the WP theme, only this demo: <a href="http://www.bloggerthemes.net/all-green/demo">http://www.bloggerthemes.net/all-green/demo</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div>
<br clear="all">Josh<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Edward Caissie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Theme has been suspended ... the author should be advised as noted throughout this thread.<br><br>Author email: paydaydesigns [at] gmail ...<br><br>I can do it, unless someone else wants to write something specific.<br><br>
<br>Cais.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">hey, me neither - read my first 100 heh..
</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">but yeah this should be suspended</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);padding-left:5px;padding-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px"><div>
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial;background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228)"><b>From:</b>
<a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip
Bennett</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
</div>
</div><div><div></div><div><div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:29
AM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion</div>
<div><br></div>No worries. I'm not immune to faulty reviews (eh, Phil? ;) ).
This one probably makes a good case study for handling of derivative Themes.
<div><br></div>
<div>Chip<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div>I wasn't aware that it was you :( </div>
<div>Yeah, there's no difference in line code at all. This is indeed
TwentyTen.</div>
<div>
<div><br clear="all"> </div>
<div><font size="1"><b>Emil Uzelac</b> | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 |
Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/emiluzelac" target="_blank">@EmilUzelac</a> | E: </font><a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">emil@themeid.com</font></a><font size="1"> |
</font><a href="http://themeid.com/" target="_blank"><font size="1">http://themeid.com</font></a></div>
<div><font size="1"><font color="#666666"><i>Make everything as simple as
possible, but not simpler.</i> - Albert
Einstein</font></font></div><br><br><br></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">That one was one I reviewed/approved; <i>mea culpa</i>.
<div><br></div>
<div>Looks like I didn't do a full review on that one. (Looks like it was
from about two months ago. Since then, I've started looking more carefully
at textdomain, and substantial differences for TwentyTen-derived
Themes.)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Chalk it up to a bad review: Bad Chip! :)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'd be fine with suspending, and asking for a revision, to address
deficiencies.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font color="#888888">Chip</font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div>Let's drop the link building for a moment and look into the same
author shall we?</div>
<div>All right this <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green" target="_blank">http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green</a> is
approved and the entire code is from TwentyTen, every single like, it
even says TwentyTen directly in files. How can that be?</div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div><br clear="all"> </div>
<div><font size="1"><b>Emil Uzelac</b> | ThemeID | T:
224-444-0006 | Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/emiluzelac" target="_blank">@EmilUzelac</a> | E: </font><a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank"><font size="1">emil@themeid.com</font></a><font size="1"> | </font><a href="http://themeid.com/" target="_blank"><font size="1">http://themeid.com</font></a></div>
<div><font size="1"><font color="#666666"><i>Make everything as simple as
possible, but not simpler.</i> - Albert
Einstein</font></font></div><br><br><br></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chip Bennett
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">The standard is "<b>significantly different design
and/or functionality</b>". Granted, it's entirely subjective, but we
*are* taking into consideration.
<div><br></div>
<div>I don't know how to draw the line any more clearly than that,
when the reality is that a non-trivial number of submitted Themes will
*always* be derived from the WordPress default Theme - which right now
is TwentyTen.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thus, it is rather infeasible to disallow *any* TwentyTen-derived
Themes.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font color="#888888">Chip</font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Otto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com" target="_blank">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Are we actually allowing basic modifications to
the twentyten theme to<br>go into the directory?<br><br>Can't we say
that themes must be at least somewhat *original*?
Simply<br>replacing the<br>artwork and screwing around with the CSS
of an existing theme does not<br>a new theme create.<br><br>Just a
thought.<br><font color="#888888"><br>-Otto<br></font>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br><br>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Tara <<a href="mailto:contact@onedesigns.com" target="_blank">contact@onedesigns.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Twenty
Ten has that hook and that theme copies plenty of code from it.
I<br>> think it’s residual waste from wannabe coders that don’t
actually understand<br>> what they’re
doing.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Daniel<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] On
Behalf Of Philip M.<br>> Hofer (Frumph)<br>> Sent: Wednesday,
January 19, 2011 4:43 PM<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> I'm thinking there's some
plugin out there that's doing it, since plugin's<br>> are not ..
moderated, they can do anything of the
like.<br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>><br>> From: Chip Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:39 AM<br>><br>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>>
I've seen quite a few Themes that have such a "do_action(
'my_theme_credits'<br>> )" in footer.php, but without a
corresponding add_action() hook in<br>>
functions.php.<br>><br>><br>><br>> I've always taken it
to be sloppiness in copying from another Theme, adding<br>> in a
hook but not knowing to define it. Is it something
else?<br>><br>><br>><br>> Chip<br>><br>> On Wed,
Jan 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> .. is
there an action that hooks into it in the theme or is he hooking
in<br>> someplace else like a
plugin?<br>><br>><br>><br>> <?php do_action(
'all_green_credits' ); ?><br>><br>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>><br>> From: Daniel Tara<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:55 AM<br>><br>> Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>>
If you don’t mean that he is building links via the
'all_green_credits'<br>> hook, then I don’t get it
either.<br>><br>> Anyway, there’s no function hooked to that
action in any theme file.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Daniel<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers-bounces@lists.wordpress.org</a>] On
Behalf Of Chip<br>> Bennett<br>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19,
2011 3:40 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second
Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> So for the
not-enough-sleep-and-no-coffee-yet version: what am I looking
at,<br>> in the footer.php that you linked?
:)<br>><br>><br>><br>> Chip<br>><br>> On Wed, Jan
19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Emil Uzelac <<a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> This
would be no go, the guy is building links via theme and that's
not<br>> cool. Please see Google cache on this <a href="http://is.gd/TSWfvV" target="_blank">http://is.gd/TSWfvV</a><br>><br>><br>><br>>
Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac |
E:<br>> <a href="mailto:emil@themeid.com" target="_blank">emil@themeid.com</a> | <a href="http://themeid.com/" target="_blank">http://themeid.com</a><br>><br>> Make everything
as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert
Einstein<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
11:13 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> heh
well thats not far from what it looks like in firefox too, that text
on<br>> the image looks
horrible<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> -----
Original Message -----<br>><br>> From: Chip
Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:55 AM<br>><br>> Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Second Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Follow up:<br>><br>><br>><br>> Firefox: renders
fine<br>><br>> Chrome: does not render
properly<br>><br>> IE8: does not render
properly<br>><br>><br>><br>> By "does not render
properly", here's what I'm seeing.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Chip<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37
AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> i'm
sorry, i'm confused as to why it's not rendering to
you?<br>><br>><br>><br>> think its a browser issue or
connection to the
site?<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original
Message -----<br>><br>> From: Chip Bennett<br>><br>> To:
<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:05 AM<br>><br>> Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Second Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> Can
you and Phil post screencaps on the ticket? I'll reinstall the Theme
and<br>> do the same.<br>><br>><br>><br>> (Or, if
it's not the author's original work, maybe we just deny it on
those<br>> grounds?)<br>><br>><br>><br>>
Chip<br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Edward
Caissie <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>><br>>
wrote:<br>><br>> IT rendered fine but like Phil pointed out,
there are some obvious items to<br>> look at
...<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:00
AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)<br>> <<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> yes
yes and yes, renders fine sorta..<br>><br>><br>><br>>
last post from from last october, the 404 page renders like
crap<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> The real
template author for this is <a href="http://www.bloggerthemes.net/" target="_blank">http://www.bloggerthemes.net/</a><br>><br>><br>><br>>
as shown here<br>><br>><br>><br>> <a href="http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#" target="_blank">http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#</a><br>
><br>><br>><br>>
(notice the <a href="http://paydaydesigns.info/" target="_blank">paydaydesigns.info</a> on that
page)<br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message
-----<br>><br>> From: Chip Bennett<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>><br>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:47 AM<br>><br>> Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Second Opinion<br>><br>><br>><br>> Can
you read any of the content?<br>><br>> Does it look like
screenshot.png?<br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM,
Edward Caissie <<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>><br>>
wrote:<br>><br>> IT seems to load fine for me ... haven't
tested it or anything. What issues<br>> are you
having?<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at
10:40 AM, Jay <<a href="mailto:furcifer@furcifer.me" target="_blank">furcifer@furcifer.me</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>
Hey chip.<br>><br>> Just taking a quick look from my phone,
it's the same theme that's on the<br>> author url, and i'm having
issues with that.<br>><br>> Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>>
wrote:<br>><br>>>Hey All,<br>>><br>>>I could
not get this Theme<br>><br>>><<a href="https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655" target="_blank">https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655</a>>to
render properly for<br>><br>>>me. Can someone else confirm
that it is the Theme,<br>>>and not something with my test
environment?<br>>><br>>>Thanks!<br>>><br>>>Chip<br>>><br>><br>>>_______________________________________________<br>>>theme-reviewers
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