I would like to do something about the horribly out-of-date and obsolete Themes in the repository, but maybe now isn't the right time - other than trying the positive-reinforcement route (a Theme adoption program). Maybe once we've had a year or so of Themes passing the Theme Review process, we'll have enough of a selection to justify arguing to begin suspending the most egregiously obsolete Themes.<div>
<br></div><div>I go back and forth on Child Themes, but at the moment, I'm leaning *against* having Child Themes in the Repository. I really believe strongly that Child Themes should be left completely to the *End Users*, as their means of implementing update-proof Theme modifications. If we start encouraging the distribution (and, therefore, *update*) of Child Themes, we encourage depriving the End User of the the primary, intended benefit of Child Themes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The Frameworks discussion has progressed well, and as you said: now is probably a good time to move that discussion to a wider audience, via a post on the Make site. I think we can make some good strides with Frameworks.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I agree regarding SVN-commit access for *trusted* developers - especially initially (or as a trial run). The potential for abuse is huge - and SVN-commit access for Themes could be pitched as a form of award/recognition/achievement for great contributions to the Theme Repository.</div>
<div><br></div><div>(Did I forget to mention Theme Documentation? Darn it; I meant to talk about it.)</div><div><br></div><div>Chip<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">We'll get there with the plans we have setup ya?,
just gotta have da patience.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Donncha's reference reminds me of my tagline "I'm
in your site touching your stuff." kinda brings a new meaning to it
;/ where's the girl wearing the bikini to try to circumvent the system,
i'd totally let that happen.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">The completeness of Justin's "Great strides in
cleaning up the repository" statement leaves me to think we really haven't
gotten anywhere close to cleaning up the "old" things in the
repository. There is much more we can do to deal with that, given
any abilities that Otto might let us have. Think the whole 'up to a
certain version' those old themes needs to be inacted upon with the 'adopt'
program. (need to continue discussion on it on a <a href="http://make.wordpress.org/themes" target="_blank">make.wordpress.org/themes</a>
post) </font><font size="2" face="Arial">The issue being that this makes work
for Otto to move the ownership of the theme to someone else, if there can be
some work done on that to make his life easier that'd be great, or even some
automation for pross/cais/chip to handle it.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Next is getting the 'flags' set and working for
child themes. This could be done with a bit of code for
the repository to associate one theme with another theme as it's parent, since
this is bbpress couldn't child theme's be just children post of the
parent? Dunno. But we still need to look into how to make it
work without dropping the ball completely and letting it slide like it has
been.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Frameworks - frameworks being 'the code behind the
templetes' we've already been having that as part of the discussion we
just need to finalize it and so far noone really had any doubts to themes
created with framework backends to be put on the repository it's just the
definetions that need to be finished so that there's a clear cut view of
reviewing them.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Chip's SVN itemized in his list brings me to
thinking that there are some serious quality theme designers that would warrant
this ability to have SVN access; .. but not everyone. If it's possible to
enable svn access to 'known developers of good intent' I'm all for
that.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">One of the things that 2011 is missing in all of
those responses is the advent of deeper and more quality documentation from
developers utilizing current and new methods instead of some of the ../shudder/
code that is currently out there.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I'm also believing that Premium Themes will offer
more then just their themes, but direct monthly support contracts for
maintenance; installation and customizations - more so then just the theme
sale.</font></div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="edward.caissie@gmail.com" href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">Edward Caissie</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:56
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] WPTRT =
TSA?</div>
<div><br></div>You are correct ... now that you mention it I remember from
reading earlier today.<br><br>Still good to be noticed all the same (*grin*)
... we need something to help generate more interest. Now if we could only get
the "Make" site on the proverbial (social media) map.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Actually, that was Donnacha's description...
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Edward Caissie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">I guess I can't complain ... at least Ryan took the time
to think of and write that description.<br><br>... any notice is better
than not being noticed at all.<br><br>
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<div>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>Quite the metaphorical description!
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<div><span style="line-height:22px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Arial,Helvetica,'Nimbus Sans L',sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:14px">The
gates to the official WordPress.org theme repository are now guarded
by a hardcore volunteer militia, the Theme Review Team, with all the
no-nonsense attitude of a cranky TSA junk-fondler whose hasn’t yet had
his afternoon box of donuts.</span></div></blockquote>
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<div>I<a href="http://wpcandy.com/presents/the-future-of-wordpress-themes-in-2011" target="_blank">nteresting read from WPCandy today</a>.</div></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>(Although my attitude is generally more driven in indirect
proportion to my daily coffee intake...)</div>
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<div>Chip</div></font><br></div></div>
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