These are all fantastic arguments.<div><br></div><div>Where were they a month or two ago? ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Although, I think P2 is definitely an edge case, and as such shouldn't be the exception that defines the rule. Can we create rules that allow for such legitimate edge cases?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Chip<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">True that, but by the same token, there are
'different' methods of implementation.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">custom-background has several different methods
that could be an alternative including the themes own option pages which have a
varity of different sublooks to it which would really faulter.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">My own CommPress theme has a specific background
look to it, that would just make it look silly if someone didnt know what they
were donig and put something else there.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Do you want the end-user to have the ability to
make their sites crap looking visually with ease?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">of course if you're in it for the money for
supporting clients, then sure .. yeah absolutely. ;/</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">however I digress even though automatic-feed-links
can have the luxury of being hardcoded it's not feasibly responsible of the
theme developer to dismiss having it.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">however, these themes that come in, they're
designed with a look and thats what people are grabbing those themes for, ..
that look. It's a convience not a necessity to require
custom-backgrounds because it changes the overall themes default
representation.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">^ it's all good either way for me, if its a
must-have and someone tells me its a must have then sure, but thats not what I
started asking about, it was post thumbnails.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Take P2 for example. Would having
post-thumbnails *really* be a must for that theme to have included?
I'm sure it could be utilized sure, but does it 'have' to ?</font></div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip
Bennett</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="philip@frumph.net" href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="edward.caissie@gmail.com" href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">Edward Caissie</a> ; <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a>
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</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 20, 2010 6:54
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme
Review Codex Page</div>
<div><br></div>"Requiring" Child Theme is not really a logical construct.
<div><br></div>
<div>Of course, I'd love to *allow* Child Themes, but that's a different
discussion entirely. :)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Chip<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Not if you use another core method of
implementation, a Child Theme.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So we're going to require child themes now,
cause its a convience?</font></div>
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<div>
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="philip@frumph.net" href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)</a>
</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="edward.caissie@gmail.com" href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">Edward Caissie</a> ;
<a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a> </div></div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 20, 2010 6:46
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Theme
Review Codex Page</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Not really a devil's advocate type of
question really. There's no evil side to any of the must or
optional.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Devil's advocate to your devil's advocate
then, the optional searchform.php, what would be the harm in requiring
it?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">.. because it doesn't need it.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">The end user can edit the style.css via the
appearance -> editor, just like the developer can use
get_search_form(); and get the default one that imo is
better.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div></div></blockquote>
<div>The default search form can also be added via sidebar Widget. It
requires no editing of Theme "core" files. So, searchform.php is truly
superfluous.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Conversely, changing the background color does require editing a
Theme "core" file, and is therefore not forward-compatible. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Chip</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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