[theme-reviewers] Why can't theme authors have a second version of a theme?

Sat Sep 27 22:42:13 UTC 2014

What's the difference? It's still a violation of this rule.

--Trent Lapinski
CEO of CyberChimps.com
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is a year name, not a version of "twenty" theme
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
>> Is that officially the only solution? Calling it "Responsive Mobile" - I didn't get a confirmation?
>> 
>> Whether the review was started or not is irrelevant. We are not being allowed to move forward with the name. That is true, and not disinformation.
>> 
>> Also, all of the default WordPress themes spell out numbers in their name. Does this mean Twenty Fifteen won't be allowed now due to this rule?
>> 
>> -Trent
>> CEO CyberChimps Inc. 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Review never started and you were informed ahead of time. Please stop sending disinformation. You agreed on Responsive Mobile. Where is the problem now?
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
>>>> Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to use the name Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped our review and told us we can't use the name.
>>>> 
>>>> This means if you get a popular theme, and want to add new features that will break the previous generations websites you cannot release a follow up theme under the same brand. Your only options are to break millions of websites, or completely rebrand according to this rule.
>>>> 
>>>> That's why this debate has lasted nearly 24 hours now. The admins have decided I cannot use my own name for my theme with a version number in the name.
>>>> 
>>>> --Trent Lapinski
>>>> CEO of CyberChimps.com
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> God, did we say don't name it Responsive II ? 
>>>>> No we did not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Admins only said don't submit it here as Responsive II
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've heard from many theme authors who have tried and been rejected before. This rules been enforced for some time now apparently and the only reason this isn't common practice is because it hasn't been allowed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500 companies use names and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest development platform is called Salesforce1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is normal in the tech industry. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Trent Lapinski
>>>>>> CEO of CyberChimps.com
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have you realized that you are the only one that does this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cais,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I came to this list for help, all I received was pointless bureaucracy.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is wrong to prevent theme authors from using their own brand names for multiple products. This rule only serves to limit the freedoms of theme authors, which was never its intention. The purpose of this rule was to protect theme authors from having their names and brands from being stolen, not to prevent authors from using their own names and brands. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Did I get frustrated? Absolutely, TRT does not have the authority or the right to limit the freedoms of an open source community, and force theme authors to rebrand and rename their established product lines, and force thousands of developers to follow rules that no free open market would ever enact. You guys are over reaching your authority, and literally becoming the brand and naming police of the WordPress community. It is silly, offensive, and downright scary that you guys have all literally agreed to limit our rights.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am trying to find a resolution to this problem without having my rights, and the rights of my fellow theme authors taken away by people who have contributed just as much as I have to this community. I have every right to be here, and I don't need to be an admin to have a say, nor do I need to be an admin to defend myself and others from pointless bureaucracy and unneeded politics.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Trent
>>>>>>>> CEO CyberChimps Inc. 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Condescending yes, ...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for making your position and opinion of the WordPress Theme Reviewers and Administrators that much more obvious.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Feel free to carry on the conversation. I have already expressed my opinion and your admission really doesn't give me much reason to reconsider what I have already written about theme names.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Edward Caissie
>>>>>>>>> aka Cais.
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