[theme-reviewers] Why can't theme authors have a second version of a theme?

Emil Uzelac emil at uzelac.me
Sat Sep 27 22:40:59 UTC 2014


No, you can go with Responsive Whatever, see the ticket please.

On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
wrote:

> Is that officially the only solution? Calling it "Responsive Mobile" - I
> didn't get a confirmation?
>
> Whether the review was started or not is irrelevant. We are not being
> allowed to move forward with the name. That is true, and not disinformation.
>
> Also, all of the default WordPress themes spell out numbers in their name.
> Does this mean Twenty Fifteen won't be allowed now due to this rule?
>
> -Trent
> CEO CyberChimps Inc.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','emil at uzelac.me');>> wrote:
>
> Review never started and you were informed ahead of time. Please stop
> sending disinformation. You agreed on Responsive Mobile. Where is the
> problem now?
>
> On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','trent at cyberchimps.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to use the name
>> Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped our review and
>> told us we can't use the name.
>>
>> This means if you get a popular theme, and want to add new features that
>> will break the previous generations websites you cannot release a follow up
>> theme under the same brand. Your only options are to break millions of
>> websites, or completely rebrand according to this rule.
>>
>> That's why this debate has lasted nearly 24 hours now. The admins have
>> decided I cannot use my own name for my theme with a version number in the
>> name.
>>
>> --Trent Lapinski
>> CEO of CyberChimps.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> God, did we say don't name it Responsive II ?
>> No we did not.
>>
>> Admins only said don't submit it here as Responsive II
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>> I've heard from many theme authors who have tried and been rejected
>>> before. This rules been enforced for some time now apparently and the only
>>> reason this isn't common practice is because it hasn't been allowed.
>>>
>>> Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500 companies use names
>>> and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest development platform is
>>> called Salesforce1.
>>>
>>> This is normal in the tech industry.
>>>
>>> --Trent Lapinski
>>> CEO of CyberChimps.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you realized that you are the only one that does this?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cais,
>>>>
>>>> I came to this list for help, all I received was pointless bureaucracy.
>>>>
>>>> It is wrong to prevent theme authors from using their own brand names
>>>> for multiple products. This rule only serves to limit the freedoms of theme
>>>> authors, which was never its intention. The purpose of this rule was to
>>>> protect theme authors from having their names and brands from being stolen,
>>>> not to prevent authors from using their own names and brands.
>>>>
>>>> Did I get frustrated? Absolutely, TRT does not have the authority or
>>>> the right to limit the freedoms of an open source community, and force
>>>> theme authors to rebrand and rename their established product lines, and
>>>> force thousands of developers to follow rules that no free open market
>>>> would ever enact. You guys are over reaching your authority, and literally
>>>> becoming the brand and naming police of the WordPress community. It is
>>>> silly, offensive, and downright scary that you guys have all literally
>>>> agreed to limit our rights.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to find a resolution to this problem without having my
>>>> rights, and the rights of my fellow theme authors taken away by people who
>>>> have contributed just as much as I have to this community. I have every
>>>> right to be here, and I don't need to be an admin to have a say, nor do I
>>>> need to be an admin to defend myself and others from pointless bureaucracy
>>>> and unneeded politics.
>>>>
>>>> -Trent
>>>> CEO CyberChimps Inc.
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Condescending yes, ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for making your position and opinion of the WordPress Theme
>>>> Reviewers and Administrators that much more obvious.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to carry on the conversation. I have already expressed my
>>>> opinion and your admission really doesn't give me much reason to reconsider
>>>> what I have already written about theme names.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Edward Caissie
>>>> aka Cais.
>>>>
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