[theme-reviewers] Theme Vs Plugin Territory

Josh Pollock jpollock412 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 3 01:18:41 UTC 2013


Ture, but then my theme would be dependent on my plugin. Isn't that another
version of lock-in?


On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Greg Priday <greg at siteorigin.com> wrote:

> This guideline isn't limiting at all. If some functionality is in the
> plugin domain, that just means you need to move it out of your theme
> into a plugin. You can fully support your plugin in your theme...
> just make sure you gracefully degrade if it isn't installed.
>
> This is a great starting point to handling plugin dependancies -
> http://ottopress.com/2012/themeplugin-dependencies/
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The reason I ask is because Plugin has its limitation to display "user
> > content".  Because of the limitation, I think it should be flexible on
> > certain gray area. Anyway, I am stick with post meta until policy
> changes.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Custom Taxonomy would fall under the same criterion, as "creation or
> >> definition of user content".
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is Custom Taxonomy allowed in theme?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Stephen Cui
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Chip-
> >>>>
> >>>> I feel like this requirement limits the ability of themes to enable
> >>>> WordPress to work as a CMS for specific purposes. For instance I am
> working
> >>>> on a custom theme for a book review site that uses a CPT called books
> for
> >>>> reviews, and the regular posts for blog/news posts. I know I could
> have used
> >>>> custom post meta, but having two totally separate options (post and
> books)
> >>>> in the menus made the system super-easy for the not incredibly
> tech-savvy
> >>>> content editor on this project.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think a generic version of this theme or something similar could be
> >>>> very helpful to people wanting to do a book review site. You could
> make a
> >>>> similar case for recipe blogs or other similar situations. These
> types of
> >>>> themes exist all over the place, but are pretty much excluded from
> the theme
> >>>> repository due to the user lockin. It seems to me that with some
> simple
> >>>> standards that these types of themes could be included in the
> repository
> >>>> without creating user lockin. Why not provide a way for users to have
> these
> >>>> types of very specific CMS themes with the high code standards and
> >>>> guaranteed GPL2 license that the theme repository provides?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Josh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Custom Post Types are, by definition and design, intended for
> >>>>> "generation or definition of user content", and as such are
> explicitly
> >>>>> Plugin territory, as per the Guidelines.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If a user creates content using a Theme-registered CPT, then when
> that
> >>>>> user switches Themes, that content disappears. (It's there in the
> database,
> >>>>> but no longer exposed to the user, either in the WordPress admin, or
> in the
> >>>>> site front end; to them, that content is simply gone.) Thus, CPTs
> represent
> >>>>> a form of Theme "lock-in" and are not allowed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Special-case Themes that use CPTs can be considered on a case-by-case
> >>>>> basis.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM, rabin shrestha <sun_ravi90 at yahoo.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> I am a bit of confused on theme vs plugin territory. Recently my
> theme
> >>>>>> was rejected because of the use of CPT in my theme the reason was
> that it's
> >>>>>> plugin territory. I know that CPT is better suited to plugin but I
> didn't
> >>>>>> know that it was a required case. I have seen themes on WordPress
> repository
> >>>>>> that have registered multiple CPT and being approved. I am not
> saying that
> >>>>>> some X theme was approved, why not Y theme is approved for same
> case. My
> >>>>>> question is,It is strictly prohibited to use CPT inside theme. Is
> it a
> >>>>>> required case or is it a recommended case. If using CPT is
> completely
> >>>>>> prohibited then I think writing it down on Theme review guidelines
> will
> >>>>>> clear out the confusion. Though Prensentation Vs Functionality
> might cover
> >>>>>> this but those words are some what vague.
> >>>>>>
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