[theme-reviewers] Envato’s License Changes For The Worse

Japheth Thomson japh at envato.com
Fri Jan 25 06:11:24 UTC 2013


Agree, Chip.

I'd be happy to reply further elsewhere, Daniel.

Cheers,
Japh



On 25 January 2013 16:56, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:

> This list is not the place to discuss this issue.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Daniel Tara <contact at onedesigns.com>wrote:
>
>> In the many years in which I have been involved with the software
>> development and open source community I have never seen such utter
>> disrespect towards the community and ignorance towards the legal
>> requirements of open source licenses and such gibberish and nonsense
>> blabbered about it. Just who exactly do Envato think they to dictate a
>> seller's licensing options? Only the copyright owner has the right to
>> decide which licese their product uses. By accepting Envato's new licensing
>> conditions, they are essentially accepting that Envato owns their products.
>> I don't care that officially the authors are still the legal owners, just
>> take a look at the facts: Envato dictates prices, sales commissions and
>> licensing terms. They're not an open and free marketplace, they're an
>> obese, rigid, dictatorial, monopolist, counter-competitive and anti
>> trusting corporation that has only one aim: profit and uses only one
>> weapon: market dominance. A huge boycott should be played on them and if
>> there are authors who really care out there they will react to it.
>>
>> Rant over.
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Emil Uzelac wrote:
>>
>> all righty good enough for me :)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Given that, under current policy, we wouldn't approve an upsell Theme
>>> for which the commercial version was hosted on ThemeForest: no, it doesn't
>>> really change anything.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> it does if the Pro version of the Theme is linked to TF right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since we already currently do not accept Themes from developers who
>>>>> sell on ThemeForest, I would only extend the current WPF-WordCamp-Envato
>>>>> discussion so far as to say that if/when Envato allows their developers to
>>>>> choose a 100% GPL-compatible license for their Themes, then I believe that
>>>>> any Theme developers who choose to use such a license would be welcome to
>>>>> submit Themes for inclusion in the wp.org Theme directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, it really doesn't impact the Theme directory or the Theme
>>>>> Review Team, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI: http://themeshaper.com/2013/01/24/envato-license/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Any questions, please post them on ThemeShaper instead.
>>>>>> I am just a messenger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emil
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