[theme-reviewers] Second Opinion

Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) philip at frumph.net
Sat Jan 22 07:46:04 UTC 2011


This email was never sent out =(

Discussed the situation with Payday Designs author on the make.wordpress.org/themes post and apologized profusely for the error and explained the reasoning.

- Phil

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Caissie 
  To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion


  Theme has been suspended ... the author should be advised as noted throughout this thread.

  Author email: paydaydesigns [at] gmail ...

  I can do it, unless someone else wants to write something specific.


  Cais.


  On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <philip at frumph.net> wrote:

    hey, me neither - read my first 100 heh.. 

    but yeah this should be suspended


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chip Bennett 
      To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:29 AM
      Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion


      No worries. I'm not immune to faulty reviews (eh, Phil? ;) ). This one probably makes a good case study for handling of derivative Themes. 


      Chip


      On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:

        I wasn't aware that it was you :( 
        Yeah, there's no difference in line code at all. This is indeed TwentyTen.

         
        Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E: emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
        Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein




        On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:

          That one was one I reviewed/approved; mea culpa. 


          Looks like I didn't do a full review on that one. (Looks like it was from about two months ago. Since then, I've started looking more carefully at textdomain, and substantial differences for TwentyTen-derived Themes.)


          Chalk it up to a bad review: Bad Chip! :)


          I'd be fine with suspending, and asking for a revision, to address deficiencies.


          Chip 



          On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:

            Let's drop the link building for a moment and look into the same author shall we?
            All right this http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green is approved and the entire code is from TwentyTen, every single like, it even says TwentyTen directly in files. How can that be?


             
            Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E: emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
            Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein




            On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:

              The standard is "significantly different design and/or functionality". Granted, it's entirely subjective, but we *are* taking into consideration. 


              I don't know how to draw the line any more clearly than that, when the reality is that a non-trivial number of submitted Themes will *always* be derived from the WordPress default Theme - which right now is TwentyTen.


              Thus, it is rather infeasible to disallow *any* TwentyTen-derived Themes.


              Chip 



              On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

                Are we actually allowing basic modifications to the twentyten theme to
                go into the directory?

                Can't we say that themes must be at least somewhat *original*? Simply
                replacing the
                artwork and screwing around with the CSS of an existing theme does not
                a new theme create.

                Just a thought.

                -Otto




                On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Tara <contact at onedesigns.com> wrote:
                > Twenty Ten has that hook and that theme copies plenty of code from it. I
                > think it’s residual waste from wannabe coders that don’t actually understand
                > what they’re doing.
                >
                >
                >
                > Daniel
                >
                >
                >
                > From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
                > [mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of Philip M.
                > Hofer (Frumph)
                > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:43 PM
                >
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > I'm thinking there's some plugin out there that's doing it, since plugin's
                > are not .. moderated, they can do anything of the like.
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                >
                > From: Chip Bennett
                >
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                >
                > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:39 AM
                >
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > I've seen quite a few Themes that have such a "do_action( 'my_theme_credits'
                > )" in footer.php, but without a corresponding add_action() hook in
                > functions.php.
                >
                >
                >
                > I've always taken it to be sloppiness in copying from another Theme, adding
                > in a hook but not knowing to define it. Is it something else?
                >
                >
                >
                > Chip
                >
                > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
                > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
                >
                > .. is there an action that hooks into it in the theme or is he hooking in
                > someplace else like a plugin?
                >
                >
                >
                > <?php do_action( 'all_green_credits' ); ?>
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                >
                > From: Daniel Tara
                >
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                >
                > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:55 AM
                >
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > If you don’t mean that he is building links via the 'all_green_credits'
                > hook, then I don’t get it either.
                >
                > Anyway, there’s no function hooked to that action in any theme file.
                >
                >
                >
                > Daniel
                >
                >
                >
                > From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
                > [mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of Chip
                > Bennett
                > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:40 PM
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > So for the not-enough-sleep-and-no-coffee-yet version: what am I looking at,
                > in the footer.php that you linked? :)
                >
                >
                >
                > Chip
                >
                > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
                >
                > This would be no go, the guy is building links via theme and that's not
                > cool. Please see Google cache on this http://is.gd/TSWfvV
                >
                >
                >
                > Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E:
                > emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
                >
                > Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein
                >
                >
                >
                > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
                > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
                >
                > heh well thats not far from what it looks like in firefox too, that text on
                > the image looks horrible
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                >
                > From: Chip Bennett
                >
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                >
                > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:55 AM
                >
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > Follow up:
                >
                >
                >
                > Firefox: renders fine
                >
                > Chrome: does not render properly
                >
                > IE8: does not render properly
                >
                >
                >
                > By "does not render properly", here's what I'm seeing.
                >
                >
                >
                > Chip
                >
                >
                >
                > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
                > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
                >
                > i'm sorry, i'm confused as to why it's not rendering to you?
                >
                >
                >
                > think its a browser issue or connection to the site?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                >
                > From: Chip Bennett
                >
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                >
                > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:05 AM
                >
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > Can you and Phil post screencaps on the ticket? I'll reinstall the Theme and
                > do the same.
                >
                >
                >
                > (Or, if it's not the author's original work, maybe we just deny it on those
                > grounds?)
                >
                >
                >
                > Chip
                >
                > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
                > wrote:
                >
                > IT rendered fine but like Phil pointed out, there are some obvious items to
                > look at ...
                >
                >
                >
                > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
                > <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
                >
                > yes yes and yes, renders fine sorta..
                >
                >
                >
                > last post from from last october, the 404 page renders like crap
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > The real template author for this is http://www.bloggerthemes.net/
                >
                >
                >
                > as shown here
                >
                >
                >
                > http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#
                >
                >
                >
                > (notice the paydaydesigns.info on that page)
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                >
                > From: Chip Bennett
                >
                > To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
                >
                > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:47 AM
                >
                > Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
                >
                >
                >
                > Can you read any of the content?
                >
                > Does it look like screenshot.png?
                >
                > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
                > wrote:
                >
                > IT seems to load fine for me ... haven't tested it or anything. What issues
                > are you having?
                >
                >
                >
                > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Jay <furcifer at furcifer.me> wrote:
                >
                > Hey chip.
                >
                > Just taking a quick look from my phone, it's the same theme that's on the
                > author url, and i'm having issues with that.
                >
                > Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
                >
                >>Hey All,
                >>
                >>I could not get this Theme
                >
                >><https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655>to render properly for
                >
                >>me. Can someone else confirm that it is the Theme,
                >>and not something with my test environment?
                >>
                >>Thanks!
                >>
                >>Chip
                >>
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