[theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
philip at frumph.net
Wed Jan 19 17:40:19 UTC 2011
hey, me neither - read my first 100 heh..
but yeah this should be suspended
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Bennett
To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
No worries. I'm not immune to faulty reviews (eh, Phil? ;) ). This one probably makes a good case study for handling of derivative Themes.
Chip
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
I wasn't aware that it was you :(
Yeah, there's no difference in line code at all. This is indeed TwentyTen.
Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E: emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
That one was one I reviewed/approved; mea culpa.
Looks like I didn't do a full review on that one. (Looks like it was from about two months ago. Since then, I've started looking more carefully at textdomain, and substantial differences for TwentyTen-derived Themes.)
Chalk it up to a bad review: Bad Chip! :)
I'd be fine with suspending, and asking for a revision, to address deficiencies.
Chip
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
Let's drop the link building for a moment and look into the same author shall we?
All right this http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/all-green is approved and the entire code is from TwentyTen, every single like, it even says TwentyTen directly in files. How can that be?
Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E: emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
The standard is "significantly different design and/or functionality". Granted, it's entirely subjective, but we *are* taking into consideration.
I don't know how to draw the line any more clearly than that, when the reality is that a non-trivial number of submitted Themes will *always* be derived from the WordPress default Theme - which right now is TwentyTen.
Thus, it is rather infeasible to disallow *any* TwentyTen-derived Themes.
Chip
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
Are we actually allowing basic modifications to the twentyten theme to
go into the directory?
Can't we say that themes must be at least somewhat *original*? Simply
replacing the
artwork and screwing around with the CSS of an existing theme does not
a new theme create.
Just a thought.
-Otto
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Daniel Tara <contact at onedesigns.com> wrote:
> Twenty Ten has that hook and that theme copies plenty of code from it. I
> think it’s residual waste from wannabe coders that don’t actually understand
> what they’re doing.
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> Daniel
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> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
> [mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of Philip M.
> Hofer (Frumph)
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:43 PM
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> I'm thinking there's some plugin out there that's doing it, since plugin's
> are not .. moderated, they can do anything of the like.
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> From: Chip Bennett
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:39 AM
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> I've seen quite a few Themes that have such a "do_action( 'my_theme_credits'
> )" in footer.php, but without a corresponding add_action() hook in
> functions.php.
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> I've always taken it to be sloppiness in copying from another Theme, adding
> in a hook but not knowing to define it. Is it something else?
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> Chip
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> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
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> .. is there an action that hooks into it in the theme or is he hooking in
> someplace else like a plugin?
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> <?php do_action( 'all_green_credits' ); ?>
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> From: Daniel Tara
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> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:55 AM
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> If you don’t mean that he is building links via the 'all_green_credits'
> hook, then I don’t get it either.
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> Anyway, there’s no function hooked to that action in any theme file.
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> Daniel
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> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
> [mailto:theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] On Behalf Of Chip
> Bennett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:40 PM
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> So for the not-enough-sleep-and-no-coffee-yet version: what am I looking at,
> in the footer.php that you linked? :)
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> Chip
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> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
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> This would be no go, the guy is building links via theme and that's not
> cool. Please see Google cache on this http://is.gd/TSWfvV
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> Emil Uzelac | ThemeID | T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E:
> emil at themeid.com | http://themeid.com
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> Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
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> heh well thats not far from what it looks like in firefox too, that text on
> the image looks horrible
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Chip Bennett
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> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:55 AM
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> Follow up:
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> Firefox: renders fine
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> Chrome: does not render properly
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> IE8: does not render properly
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> By "does not render properly", here's what I'm seeing.
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> Chip
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
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> i'm sorry, i'm confused as to why it's not rendering to you?
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> think its a browser issue or connection to the site?
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Chip Bennett
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> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:05 AM
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> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Second Opinion
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> Can you and Phil post screencaps on the ticket? I'll reinstall the Theme and
> do the same.
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> (Or, if it's not the author's original work, maybe we just deny it on those
> grounds?)
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> Chip
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> IT rendered fine but like Phil pointed out, there are some obvious items to
> look at ...
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
> <philip at frumph.net> wrote:
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> yes yes and yes, renders fine sorta..
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> last post from from last october, the 404 page renders like crap
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> The real template author for this is http://www.bloggerthemes.net/
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> as shown here
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> http://www.dhetemplate.com/2010/11/free-all-green-blogger-template.html#
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> (notice the paydaydesigns.info on that page)
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Chip Bennett
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> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:47 AM
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> Can you read any of the content?
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> Does it look like screenshot.png?
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> IT seems to load fine for me ... haven't tested it or anything. What issues
> are you having?
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Jay <furcifer at furcifer.me> wrote:
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> Hey chip.
>
> Just taking a quick look from my phone, it's the same theme that's on the
> author url, and i'm having issues with that.
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> Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
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>>Hey All,
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>>I could not get this Theme
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>><https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2655>to render properly for
>
>>me. Can someone else confirm that it is the Theme,
>>and not something with my test environment?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Chip
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